Possible. My point is one was linked to the other. Not like the Sale trade negotiations started earlier that same morning…Originally Posted by Bellhorn04
Possible. My point is one was linked to the other. Not like the Sale trade negotiations started earlier that same morning…
A convenient story. Of course, if this deal was 100% about just cutting salary, why make the deal at all if you’re paying that much?Because the Sox are suckers and Atlanta was happy to take advantage?
And if you have so much faith that Sale was back and ready to go, why would Atlanta ask for money and risk Boston killing the deal?
Because 10 million is still a chunk of change? This is like asking why they traded Price when they still had to pay $16 million.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
In both cases, the other team likely asked for the money because they knew the risks of trading for damaged goods…
Yes, I think you may have hit on it!
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
It’s only what I’ve been saying for multiple weeks!Yes, I think you may have hit on it!
I believe if Sale pitched a full season last year, he’d still be in Boston. And Giolito would be on some other team’s injury list…
So far Sale is pitching like a CY candidate, and Grissom has been playing when he has played like a suspect, and not a prospect. I’ve already said in the beginning I didn’t know Boston had to kick in $17M, and have been highly critical of that fact ever since. Irrelevant criticism from a NN? That’s irrelevant in itself.
You're highly critical for everything
WAR is good for something.
Yes, and I joined the club.
Therefore, I take everything you say with a grain of salt. Your opinions have an agenda.
WAR is good for something.
As does everyone else’s voted on by more than 1 establishment.
And take advantage they did over the 12th pick in the 2024 HOBO draft, and took advantage of a rookie.Because the Sox are suckers and Atlanta was happy to take advantage?
What in the blue hell are you going on about?
WAR is good for something.
It's more complicated than you guys are saying. Sale made it clear that, whoever he played for this year, must agree to 3 years, 2024-2026. And he could do that as a 10year/5 year veteran of MLB and of the Sox.
I think it's the 3 year contract that made it very easy for the Sox not only to let Sale go, but to send $17M with him.
So why oh why did the Braves agree to 3 years? I think they looked at the bigger picture, which is that, after TJ surgery and presumably a rebuilt and stronger Sale, he never got a real chance to show what he could do until 2023.
Last year was 4 years after his last real season, so chances were he was rediscovering what he could still do: 20 starts, 6 complete games, 125 IP, 125 K's, 29 BB's, ERA 4.30. The Braves decided, correctly, that something like the old Sale was doable/possible.
But, as we have seen, this season they have been careful to give him a minimum of 6 days rest between starts and sometimes 7. In return, Sale has averaged 6.25 innings per start to go along with the 2.71 ERA and 127 K's to 19 BB's. He has pitched 100 innings and could come close to 200 for the season. However, we also know that Sale faltered in the final months (and the postseason) in 2017 and 2018 before ending the 2019 season early with just 25 starts. So I think the Braves will err on the side of caution this season because they want him for 2025 and 2026.
Sale had no leverage to make the Red Sox extend him; due to his rights as a 10/5 player, he did have leverage with any potential trading partner. It’s possible that a deal or two before Atlanta were quashed by Sale when he never received an extension…
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