This.Originally Posted by moonslav59
This.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
I'm not sure I'd use the word "excellent," as the Yanks are sucking, too.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
Yes, and they've picked up 4 games on us over the last 5. That's how bad we are now. Our pitching staff is in shreds, moon.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Before the game where he got concussed by Tatis he was hitting .303/.376/.507 with 11 HRs and 31 RBIs over 52 games. After that game he hit .176 with only one HR until hitting the IL in early August. I don't think he's a .300 hitter anymore even without the concussion, but I don't think it's a stretch to say he's average or above average when his brain isn't damaged.
That Rizzo played that long while concussed is not a good look for the Yankees org.
WAR is good for something.
Indeed, and they have 9 games left vs DET, KCR and PIT.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
He will be another year older in 2024 and started declining pretty quickly after 2019.
It may not be a "stretch" to think he can be average in 2024, but I think the odds are against it. The 15th ranked 1Bman in MLB, now is at about .770-.780. Here are Rizzo's OPS numbers since 2020:
.755
.783
.817
.706
He'll turn 35, next season. Why would .770-.780 be expected?
No, it's not a stretch to think it could happen, but my list was supposed to be about how many slots can be viewed as solid for 2024? Solid average is not even asking for much.
I see 4, maybe 5 if the starting 9.
3 maybe 4 SP'ers
an unknown amount of RP'ers, when 2-3 years ago, you guys had 4-5 in the pen viewed as AVG or AVG+. Let's say you have 2.
That's about 11 slots out of 26. You guys may be planning to spend big, this coming winter, but you are more than 3-4 slots away from being top contenders, again.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
Agreed on needing to fill multiple positions. Was only talking about Rizzo though. I think he can OPS .770+ because he surpassed it last year, and also this year until he got concussed. The reduction of shifts has helped him, and he also still plays good defense (when playing healthy).
It's not unreasonable to project that, but at his age, I don't think it's a solid bet he reaches .770-.780. Sure, he can, but is it a solid enough bet to count on?
I do think the Yanks bet he can and do not upgrade at 1B, and I doubt they try and upgrade at catching, either. They will bank on bounce backs from Trivino and Higgy.
They will slot LeMahieu somewhere as a FT'er, too. That could easily be two choices that end up below average. They will probably go with Stanton at DH, again, so that's 3 out of 9. They will add a CF'er and maybe LF'er, and try to get a SP'er and 2-3 solid pen arms. Is that going to be enough?
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
Last spring, there is no way any Yankee fan would say the Sox had a better foundation or players you can count on to be average or above average at their positions. Now, I'm not so sure they'd feel the same way, now.
Wong/McGuire v Trivino/Higgy
Casas v Rizzo/Bauers
Urias/Reyes v Torres
Story v Volpe
Devers vs LeMahieu/Peraza
Duran/Refsnyder v Pereira/I F-k
Rafaela/Abreu v McKinney
Dugo v Judge
Yoshida v Stanton
The pitching shows the Yanks in a better light, but there are a lot of questions for both teams.
Bello, Sale, Pivetta, Houck, Crawford
vs
Cole, Rodon, Cortes, Schmidt, German, Brito
Jansen, Martin, Winckowski, Schreiber, Whitlock, Bernardino/Joely
vs
Homes, Kahnle, King, Peralta, Abreu and otehrs
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
The young Yankee call ups have injected some life into a team that previously looked like they were just going through the motions. They probably are wishing they had done it sooner.
Old school is good school.
Interesting how you included callups for the sox and not the Yanks, lol. Yanks will improve and will spend this offseason, I guarantee you this. Red Sox, who knows?
Hal sucks
You can also find a good hitting 1b pretty cheaply in season. They have his ready made replacement in Wells behind him anyway.
Hal sucks
Some of your call-ups just happened during printing press time.
Sorry, if I missed any before hand.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
The Yanks have the better prospects with the closest proximity. They won't all hit, but some will. Or they parlay those guys into someone of value. Who knows. But Wells, Pereira, Peraza, Volpe and Dominguez have been top 10 on their prospect list for awhile. Add them to Judge, Torres and Rizzo and one or two middle of the order bats on the trade or FA market and we should be able to return to some semblance of usefulness
Hal sucks
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