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Thread: Red Sox Sign Masataka Yoshida

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    I think it’s a bigger gamble than it is a upside, and like I said yesterday Suzuki didn’t set the league on fire last year by any means.
    It was a BIG gamble, and a BIG overpay.

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    Yoshida just doesn’t really fit the rest of the team. This team has a lot of speed and athletic dudes, and in the outfielder they’re all good at fielding. Yoshida is slow, can’t defend and isn’t hitting well enough to warrant full time DH. He's been very disappointing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonbay44 View Post
    Yoshida just doesn’t really fit the rest of the team. This team has a lot of speed and athletic dudes, and in the outfielder they’re all good at fielding. Yoshida is slow, can’t defend and isn’t hitting well enough to warrant full time DH. He's been very disappointing
    When Yoshida was signed, the Sox were losing both JDM and Bogey and Story had just played his first season (94 games) with the Sox. Story's WAR's in 2022, 2023, and 2024 were 2.5, .8, and .2. Yoshida's in 2023 and 2024 have been 1.4 and -0.2.

    I would say both have been disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxbialystock View Post
    When Yoshida was signed, the Sox were losing both JDM and Bogey and Story had just played his first season (94 games) with the Sox. Story's WAR's in 2022, 2023, and 2024 were 2.5, .8, and .2. Yoshida's in 2023 and 2024 have been 1.4 and -0.2.

    I would say both have been disappointing.
    Story has definitely been disappointing as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonbay44 View Post
    Story has definitely been disappointing as well.
    Indeed, the last three largest FA deals have seen major injuries and or underperformance, when healthy.

    $140M/6 Story- 145 games out of 486 and just a .681 OPS
    $90M/5 Yoshida (plus a $15.4M posting fee)- 173 games out of about 239 at .754
    $38M/2 Giolito- No GS in year one.

    We did do well with some mid-level deals like Jansen ($32M/2,) Martin ($17.5M/2,) and Turner (~$15M/1) but a few not so good- like all the $10M/1 deals: Kike II, Kluber & Richards. (The $18.8M/2 extension to Barnes was a bust.)

    Bloom did much better with the $3-7M deals, like Wacha, Hill, Duvall, Strahm, Renfroe and Kike I at $14M/2 and Paxton at $10M/2.

    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    I still think Yoshida's contract can be a net positive, but I don't feel the same way about Story.
    WAR is good for something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipre View Post
    I still think Yoshida's contract can be a net positive, but I don't feel the same way about Story.
    Story is running out of time, but I think he has a better chance at having a big plus year.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Story is running out of time, but I think he has a better chance at having a big plus year.
    Right. Like Story is made of glass, but an actual good player. Yoshida at this point just doesn't do anything all that well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk7326 View Post
    Right. Like Story is made of glass, but an actual good player. Yoshida at this point just doesn't do anything all that well.
    At some point, I do agree that the best ability is availability. Yoshida is here and can, like many members of the team this season already have, surprise us...

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Story is running out of time, but I think he has a better chance at having a big plus year.
    It would take a big offensive reversal for Story to have a big year. It COULD happen. Sox would just have to trade him first.
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    I get MV Pee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    It would take a big offensive reversal for Story to have a big year. It COULD happen. Sox would just have to trade him first.
    Just a better chance than Yoshida, IMO- not saying I expect it.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Just a better chance than Yoshida, IMO- not saying I expect it.
    Have you seen Story's slugging the past two seasons?
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    I get MV Pee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Have you seen Story's slugging the past two seasons?
    Yes, in sporadic sample sizes, usually coming right off rehab.

    I’ve also seen Yoshi’s SLG.

    Thinking someone has a better shot that Yoshi is NOT high praise.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Betts 30.4

    Story 22.4 Yoshida DH 18.6 = 41

    Priceless!!!

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    I'm sorry everyone. It's my fault.
    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    I get MV Pee.

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