The Dodgers pen was also somewhat decimated. What do you think Roberts did wrong, exactly?Originally Posted by dgalehouse
The Dodgers pen was also somewhat decimated. What do you think Roberts did wrong, exactly?
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Going to Taillon in the 10th was stupid and then held off on using Holmes when he says he was totally ready to play.
It would much easier to list what Davey did right , because it was very little. But just in a nutshell, he apparently had no plan for the bullpen except to just wing it. I don't think anyone had an idea what their role was. Vesia frantically trying to get loose while they tried to stall was not how you want to draw it up. The seventh inning deteriorated into a confused fiasco .
Old school is good school.
Winging it in the BP seems to be going around the league now, and I don’t seeing it working out to well for a lot of teams.
So, building great pens often ends up with "winging pens", in the end.
Such is the fickle nature of baseball and roster construction.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
And pitchers seem to be getting injured more and more often all the time.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Winging it is not a good plan. We saw enough of that in Fenway this year. With a bullpen , you should know who your closer is. You should know who has the 8th inning . You should know who your setup man ( or relief ace , if you prefer ) is. And the pitchers should know their roles so they can get ready and properly prepare. Now , sometimes you have to make changes , but " winging it " should never be the plan.
Old school is good school.
The more and more they are pampered, the more they get hurt.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
Why?
These roles have too and for many teams will change over the course of the season, whether it’s injury, ineffectiveness, or simple overuse. Not to mention, not event reliever wants a specific role. Absolutely some do, but it’s not an absolute.
Get the best pitchers you can. Having defined roles in the bullpen is small market stuff…
I do think jerking Houck and Whitlock around hurt their success chances.
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
Speaking of injuries, at the deadline the Yankees traded for Bader, Benintendi, Montas, Trivino and Effross.
Bader of course was on the IL when they traded for him.
Benintendi, Montas, and Effross are all injured. Effross is having TJS and I don't think the other two will return even if the Yankees get past this series.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Notin , I always count on you to provide some cockamamie explanation as to why plain old common sense is wrong. You never disappoint.
Old school is good school.
I agree 100%.
One of his better ones was that guarding the 3rd, and 1st base lines was the same as the shift.
Did the Dodgers have a great pen? Got rid of Jansen, and Kimbrel went by way of Matt Barnes, and was left off the roster.
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