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    Like me, who saw the evidence presented in this video and now understands Bauer was a victim of a gold digging scheme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipre View Post
    Like me, who saw the evidence presented in this video and now understands Bauer was a victim of a gold digging scheme.
    I'm not questioning that at all. I just don't know if it's enough to rehabilitate his image enough for a team to sign him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I'm not questioning that at all. I just don't know if it's enough to rehabilitate his image enough for a team to sign him.
    I will agree it’s not enough for every team. Maybe not even most teams.

    But is it enough for one team? I think so.

    Odubel Herrera, Julio Urias, Domingo German and Aroldis Chapman all got second chances for worse things..
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    Let's face it, the potential problem with Bauer is that something like this is going to happen again.

    And as we have seen, even if you're legally onside, it can make quite a mess.
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    If you're really into rough sex, you're probably going to run into a few low-lifers along the way, no? And if you're into rough sex and filthy rich, some of those low-lifers are going to want your money. The algebra is all pretty simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    If you're really into rough sex, you're probably going to run into a few low-lifers along the way, no? And if you're into rough sex and filthy rich, some of those low-lifers are going to want your money. The algebra is all pretty simple.

    Let’s condense this: if you have money, people will want it.

    Are we going to start pretending this blackmail situation is some new angle limited to those with alternative lifestyles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Let’s condense this: if you have money, people will want it.

    Are we going to start pretending this blackmail situation is some new angle limited to those with alternative lifestyles?
    Prior to Bauer, who was the last player to have their career derailed by blackmail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Julio Urias, Domingo German and Aroldis Chapman all got second chances for worse things..
    Good examples.

    Urias: Oops, I did it again!
    German: Another one suspended again.
    Chapman: Went from an $86 million contract to a $3.75 million contract.
    Last edited by Bellhorn04; 10-14-2023 at 12:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Prior to Bauer, who was the last player to have their career derailed by blackmail?
    Not sure the point. How many players have settled cases out of court? Any of them are possibilities, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Good examples.

    Urias: Oops, I did it again!
    German: Another one suspended again.
    Chapman: Went from an $86 million contract to a $3.75 million contract.
    But my point is all of them got second chances. Or us the point that “we shouldn’t give Bauer a second chance because Julio Urias didn’t learn his lesson”?

    MLB levied a punishment. Bauer served it. And now it appears he might have been the victim. Tthose other players committed their crimes, served their time, and got second chances. Bauer might not have committed a crime, did serve his time, and now you’re saying it’s not enough?
    Last edited by notin; 10-14-2023 at 01:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    But my point is all of them got second chances. Or us the point that “we shouldn’t give Bauer a second chance because Julio Urias didn’t learn his lesson”?

    MLB levied a punishment. Bauer served it. And now it appears he might have been the victim. Tthose other players committed their crimes, served their time, and got second chances. Bauer might not have committed a crime, did serve his time, and now you’re saying it’s not enough?
    I'm mainly just giving my opinion on why I think teams will be leery of signing Bauer, not arguing whether it's right or wrong.

    If he does sign I think it will be a pretty small deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    I'm mainly just giving my opinion on why I think teams will be leery of signing Bauer, not arguing whether it's right or wrong.

    If he does sign I think it will be a pretty small deal.
    Well, you were getting pretty judgmental on his lifestyle in posts 64 and 65.

    He’sb not going to get the money the Dodgers gave him. But I think he will do quite well.

    What works for him and the Red Sox is that in the past, he has eschewed long term deals, and Henry has disparaged them.

    I throw out 2yr/$55mill s the deal. But in think he ultimately sounds with the Mets, who have cleared out the top of their rotation recently and have money to spend.

    Bauer can pitch. That’s never been in question. And for many teams, that’s also all that matters…

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    If you're really into rough sex, you're probably going to run into a few low-lifers along the way, no? And if you're into rough sex and filthy rich, some of those low-lifers are going to want your money. The algebra is all pretty simple.
    If you walk on the wild side, you are going meet some unsavory people. And some bad stuff will happen. You should have had better judgment. But I don't think you can take away a guy's livelihood because you think he might have done something wrong. Some MLB team will sign Bauer.
    Old school is good school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgalehouse View Post
    If you walk on the wild side, you are going meet some unsavory people. And some bad stuff will happen. You should have had better judgment. But I don't think you can take away a guy's livelihood because you think he might have done something wrong. Some MLB team will sign Bauer.

    Seems to be a fairly judgmental crowd without regards to alternative lifestyles. You can meet unsavory people in church, too. In fact, it probably happens more often.

    Bauer’s lifestyle is his business. And with the exception of this one case, he seems to be able to keep it under control. I do doubt this was his first time doing anything like this. Just the first time it got national coverage…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Well, you were getting pretty judgmental on his lifestyle in posts 64 and 65.
    I don't think what I said was judgmental morally. It's a risky lifestyle, is all I'm saying.
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