2022 Prospects

[moonslav59]

The Sox farm continues winning. 2-1, today with a rainout. (16-3 last 5 days)

Woo won 5-2.
Mata looked OK by the numbers: 6.0 IP, 4H, 2ER, 3BB, 5K
German with his 7th save (0H, 0BB, 0K)
EValdez (Vaz trade) got 3 of the team's 5 hits and 4 RBI. He had a 2B and HR.
Almonte walked 3 times and was 1-1 w 3 runs scored.

POR won 5-0
Rafaela 2-4 (HR, 2B)
WAbreu 1-3 w 2 BBs (102 on the season)
Koss 1-3 (HR, HBP)

SAL lost 9-6
Romero 2-4 w 2B and 3 rbi
Paulino 1-4 w 2B and BB
Anthony 1-4

[Bellhorn04]

There is zero dilemma. If and when Mayer is ready to play SS, they guy there can be moves to 2B, 3B or traded.

I think the real dilemma Larry is raising is about retaining Bogey.

[moonslav59]

I think the real dilemma Larry is raising is about retaining Bogey.

But, Mayer has nothing or very little to do with that choice. You move Bogey to another position (3B, if Devers is gone) or trade Bogey, Story or Mayer, if a logjam ever occurs.

[Bellhorn04]

But, Mayer has nothing or very little to do with that choice. You move Bogey to another position (3B, if Devers is gone) or trade Bogey, Story or Mayer, if a logjam ever occurs.

Or move Raffy to first base.

Somehow I don't think a dream infield of Devers, Story, Mayer and Bogaerts is a possibility in the real world though.

[moonslav59]

Or move Raffy to first base.

Somehow I don't think a dream infield of Devers, Story, Mayer and Bogaerts is a possibility in the real world though.

No, because this IF would mean trading the Messiah Casas.

[Larry Cook]

There is zero dilemma. If and when Mayer is ready to play SS, they guy there can be moves to 2B, 3B or traded.

what hang’em Chaim does this offseason for the 2023 season at short stop has consequences down the road. How he solves this dilemma will have a huge impact on our organization for years to come.

I’m not sure moving athletes to other positions or trying to work a trade is an ideal or practical solution.

But the other side of the coin is there is no guarantee that Mayer ever develops into a major leaguer.

[moonslav59]

what hang’em Chaim does this offseason for the 2023 season at short stop has consequences down the road. How he solves this dilemma will have a huge impact on our organization for years to come.

I’m not sure moving athletes to other positions or trying to work a trade is an ideal or practical solution.

But the other side of the coin is there is no guarantee that Mayer ever develops into a major leaguer.

Mayer is too far away, and Bogey will be ready for a position change when he is ready.

[moonslav59]

Bryan Mata has not gotten much talk coming back from surgery.

He was ranked pretty highly a couple years ago and has almost 70 IP, so far, with these numbers:

.576 OPS Against
2.23 ERA
81 Ks
The 38 BBs is concerning, however, but the WHIP is a respectable 1.24.

Although soxprospects has him ranked 7th, they don't seem to think too kindly of him in their summation:

Projects as a back end starter or multi-inning relief arm with premium stuff to handle a late inning role if necessary. Ceiling of a mid-rotation starter. Still has a wide range of outcomes as he makes his return from Tommy John surgery. Raw stuff is back, but feel for secondaries and command come and go within outings. Might be able to start, but could be more effective in shorter bursts out of the bullpen. Delivery still has effort and we need to see how his stuff holds up over longer, 5-6-inning stints and when pitching on a consistent starter’s schedule. Will show the potential for a true four-pitch mix with two potential plus offerings. Has shown the ability to miss bats with all four pitches at various points in his career. Harnessing command of his arsenal will be key for his development. Injury risk had become a concern even pre-Tommy John surgery, as he last made it through a full season healthy in 2017. Tommy John Surgery in April 2021 clouds future starter profile.

[moonslav59]

Here is a look at many of the prospects Bloom traded for or drafted Rule 5:

(MLB are career numbers/ minor league numbers are 2022 only)

Whitlock (Rule 5)
2.72 ERA in 149 MLB IP

Winckowski (Beni)
5.75 ERA in 67 MLB IP
3.83 ERA in 47 AAA IP (.576 OPS Against)

Seabold (Workman/Hembree)
10.67 ERA in MLB 14 IP
3.18 ERA in AAA 76 IP (.646 OPS Against)

Ort (MiLB Rule 5)
6.43 ERA in 21 MLB IP
2.88 ERA in 41 AAA IP (.572 OPS Against)

Wong (Betts)
.855 OPS in 31 MLB PAs
.838 OPS in 323 AAA ABs

Downs (Betts)
.427 OPS in 41 MLB PAs
.728 OPS in 284 AAA ABs

German (w Ottavino)
2.83 ERA in 48 IP AA/AAA (.500 OPS Against)

E Valdez (Vaz)
.968 OPS in AA/AAA ABs

W Abreu (Vaz)
.828 OPS in 423 AA ABs (102 BBs)

Binelas (Renfroe)
.729 OPS in 400 A+/AA ABs

Hamilton (Renfroe)
.695 OPS in 418 AA ABs (62 SBs)

R Hernandez (Springs/Mazza)
.769 OPS in 355 AAA ABs

C Koss (Y Abar)
.774 OPS in 448 AA ABs

M Ferguson (Groome)
.716 in 402 A/A+ ABs (59 SBs)

C Rosier (Groome)
.730 in 371 A+ ABs (40 SBs)

J Wallace (Pillar)
4.18 ERA in 52 IP at AA

H Potts (Moreland)
.726 OPS in 245 AA ABs

[Bellhorn04]

Bryan Mata has not gotten much talk coming back from surgery.

He was ranked pretty highly a couple years ago and has almost 70 IP, so far, with these numbers:

.576 OPS Against
2.23 ERA
81 Ks
The 38 BBs is concerning, however, but the WHIP is a respectable 1.24.

Although soxprospects has him ranked 7th, they don't seem to think too kindly of him in their summation:

Projects as a back end starter or multi-inning relief arm with premium stuff to handle a late inning role if necessary. Ceiling of a mid-rotation starter. Still has a wide range of outcomes as he makes his return from Tommy John surgery. Raw stuff is back, but feel for secondaries and command come and go within outings. Might be able to start, but could be more effective in shorter bursts out of the bullpen. Delivery still has effort and we need to see how his stuff holds up over longer, 5-6-inning stints and when pitching on a consistent starter’s schedule. Will show the potential for a true four-pitch mix with two potential plus offerings. Has shown the ability to miss bats with all four pitches at various points in his career. Harnessing command of his arsenal will be key for his development. Injury risk had become a concern even pre-Tommy John surgery, as he last made it through a full season healthy in 2017. Tommy John Surgery in April 2021 clouds future starter profile.

soxprospects doesn't seem to wear rose-colored glasses.

[A Red Sox fan named Hugh]

They have his ceiling as a middle-of-the-rotation starter. I think they think pretty kindly of him.

[Larry Cook]

Yorke with his 11th tater of the season.

[moonslav59]

Not much to talk up about the farm, tonight.

We got swept 3 games to nil.

[mvp 78]

Yorke with his 11th tater of the season.

Injuries really took a toll in this guy's season. I hope he can turn it around next year. Unfortunately, he already had the injury knock on him as a highschooler.

[mvp 78]

I haven't been paying as much attention to the MiLB lately, but since heading to Salem, draftee Chase Meidroth has a 980 OPS, 3 HR, 12 BB, 6 K in 17 games. He's not a power guy, but his noted bat to ball skills are showing up in A ball and he's still just flat out walking a ton. He'll probably keep walking a shitload until he gets to AA at some point.