All the more reason for DD not to have extended him unless top medical doctors gave him a clean bill of health -- not our crackpot medical staff of quacks.Originally Posted by mvp 78
All the more reason for DD not to have extended him unless top medical doctors gave him a clean bill of health -- not our crackpot medical staff of quacks.
The King of TalkSox has Spoken.
Maybe this kind of thing isn't always as easy as us fans like to think it is...
Maybe weighing a buck 60 at 6 foot tall and violent arm delivery should have been a factor. The red flags were there.
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A number of us, including Kimmi, have questioned the sense of giving long term contracts to players over 30. That especially applies to pitchers who have a lot of mileage on them and the moreso when they have exhibited soreness in their arms and shoulders. Under DD, we went ahead with contracts of that type and it is probably what got him fired. I doubt if Bloom will make similar moves, but in the meantime, we will have to work through what is on the books. Sale may be able to come back from this in a year but he will be 32 and his arm will be a question mark. We will have the $48 mil from Price, whats left of Eovaldi and the remainder of the $145 mil from Sale when he gets back. Not an enviable situation.
Dennis Eckersly became a full-time closer at age 33, and pitched until he was 43. In that time he saved an average of 34 games per year, pitched in 58 games a year -- and here's the key: had an average of 61 innings pitched per year.
In his first five seasons exclusively as a reliever -- through age 37 -- Eck was a four-time All-Star with four Top 6 finishes in the Cy Young and MVP, each of which he won once.
Boston players and fans cheered when sore-armed Chris Sale strutted out of the bullpen to strikeout the last three batters of the 2018 World Series. Of course we'd all like to see him do that for seven innings per game again like in his prime, but closing (or opening or power-relieving) may be the only way he can ever again become elite...
Maybe Sale can duplicate what Lackey did post-TJS.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Fair statement.
Exactly. As much as we like to think we know more than those actually involved with the team, we don't.
I don't think there's a Red Sox fan alive who wasn't scratching their heads a little when they did the extension with Sale. I tried to have faith that the team had good medical info and knew what they were doing. Oh well.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
The curious thing is why GMs continue to sign players to insane contracts. And it is getting more and more insane every year.
I understand that Mookie is not Chris Sale, but the number of people who really want to sign Mookie to a 10+ year mega contract just blows my mind.
I was not scratching my head on that one. I would have liked the deal to be one year shorter, but I thought it was a good idea to extend Sale before he reached free agency. If Sale has pitched like vintage Sale, his price would have sky rocketed and we would have not been able to re-sign him. We then would have heard criticism over why we didn't lock Sale up in the spring.
Very similar to Beckett's extension.
And Mookie is looking for about 3 times as much as Sale.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
I agree that the deal itself was just fine - if he was healthy...
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
One can hope.
Lackey post-TJ: age 34-38, avg. W-L 12-11, 3.57 ERA, 193 IP.
I think the best Lackey post-surgery stat that Red Sox fans would be happy to see with Sale is this: postseason games started -- 11... 5 wins, 2 losses, 2 rings.
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