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    Quote Originally Posted by cp176 View Post
    Whoops forgot about Holt (some would tell me to forget about Holt) - imagine that!
    His defense is easy to forget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Cook View Post
    Everybody seems dead set against it, but I am hopeful chavis is our second baseman next season.

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    I brought it up in the first place after reading a report that he was more likely to fit at 2nd then 3rd. They haven't done much to play him at 2nd yet, but it does make some sense. We have a need and he looks like an up and coming MLer. Getting a low cost player in the lineup with a good bat should be considered but the Sox would have to prepare him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    His defense is easy to forget.
    Holt is about average as a second baseman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Cook View Post
    Everybody seems dead set against it, but I am hopeful chavis is our second baseman next season.

    Betts
    Bogey
    Benintendi
    JD Martinez
    Hanley
    Devers
    Chavis
    Vazquez
    Bradley
    The Infield defense would be brutal, though. I'm assuming Hanley at 1b (with Martinez at DH), Chavis at 2b, Bogaerts at SS, and Devers at 3b. Could be the worst infield defense in the AL.

    I would rather go with Lin at 2b, Chavis at 1b, Hanley to part time player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    Holt is about average as a second baseman.
    Yes, that's his best position. I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fan_since_Boggs View Post
    The Infield defense would be brutal, though. I'm assuming Hanley at 1b (with Martinez at DH), Chavis at 2b, Bogaerts at SS, and Devers at 3b. Could be the worst infield defense in the AL.
    It would be the worst Sox infield defense in my memory.

    We'd also maybe have the best Sox OF/catcher defensive combination in my memory.

    Is this a significant IF defensive upgrade?

    1B Devers (HRam)
    2B Pedey
    3B Bogey
    SS Cozart
    (DH: HRam)


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    A Kansas City blogger suggests a trade of Whit Merrrifield, Kelvim Herrera and Ryan Buchter for Michael Chavis, Brock Holt and Austin Maddox:

    https://kingsofkauffman.com/2017/10/...oston-red-sox/

    The nearly 29-year-old Merrifield, who posted 3.1 fWAR this year while leading the American League in stolen bases, remains under team control for five years after playing 132 of his 145 games at second base this season.

    The nearly 28-year-old Herrera, a two-time All Star reliever, remains under team control for one season at a hefty projected arbitration salary of $8.3 million.

    Buchter, a nearly 31-year-old reliever, remains under team control for five seasons.

    I suspect the KC blogger seriously overstates the trade value of Chavis and Holt. The Red Sox would likely do that deal in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harmony View Post
    A Kansas City blogger suggests a trade of Whit Merrrifield, Kelvim Herrera and Ryan Buchter for Michael Chavis, Brock Holt and Austin Maddox:

    https://kingsofkauffman.com/2017/10/...oston-red-sox/

    The nearly 29-year-old Merrifield, who posted 3.1 fWAR this year while leading the American League in stolen bases, remains under team control for five years after playing 132 of his 145 games at second base this season.

    The nearly 28-year-old Herrera, a two-time All Star reliever, remains under team control for one season at a hefty projected arbitration salary of $8.3 million.

    Buchter, a nearly 31-year-old reliever, remains under team control for five seasons.

    I suspect the KC blogger seriously overstates the trade value of Chavis and Holt. The Red Sox would likely do that deal in a heartbeat.
    Maddox would be the centerpiece of the deal, and you barely mentioned him.

    I'm not sure how desperate KC is to cut salary as they have Hosmer & Mosse coming off the books, but I do think they'll want to dump Herrera and his $8M arb.

    I'm not so sure the Sox are looking to take on that kind of salary for RP'ers and 2B. Their biggest need is clean-up hitting, 1B, 4th OF and SP'ing. This deal fills none of their biggest needs.

    What do we do when Pedey comes back? Bench Merrifield or HRam?

    Interesting trade suggestion, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Maddox would be the centerpiece of the deal, and you barely mentioned him.

    I'm not sure how desperate KC is to cut salary as they have Hosmer & Mosse coming off the books, but I do think they'll want to dump Herrera and his $8M arb.

    I'm not so sure the Sox are looking to take on that kind of salary for RP'ers and 2B. Their biggest need is clean-up hitting, 1B, 4th OF and SP'ing. This deal fills none of their biggest needs.

    What do we do when Pedey comes back? Bench Merrifield or HRam?

    Interesting trade suggestion, though.
    Austin Maddox is a 26-year-old prospect ranked 21st and 28th in a mediocre Red Sox farm system, according to SoxProspects and MLB Prospect Watch:

    http://www.soxprospects.com/moreprospects.htm

    http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=bos

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=maddox001aus

    Maddox averaged 4.7 walks per nine innings this year in 49.1 minor league innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harmony View Post
    Austin Maddox is a 26-year-old prospect ranked 21st and 28th in a mediocre Red Sox farm system, according to SoxProspects and MLB Prospect Watch:

    http://www.soxprospects.com/moreprospects.htm

    http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=bos

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=maddox001aus

    Maddox averaged 4.7 walks per nine innings this year in 49.1 minor league innings.
    The same soxprospects.com has Maddox listed as our 5th RP'er next year ahead of Hembree, Scott, Workman, Thornburg, Ross and others.

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    I do agree. The Sox would make the deal in a heartbeat.

    Merrifield has played a lot of OF in the minors, so he could double as our 4th OF'er.

    I'd even throw in another mid-level prospect like Shawaryn or Travis, if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    The same soxprospects.com has Maddox listed as our 5th RP'er next year ahead of Hembree, Scott, Workman, Thornburg, Ross and others.
    The SoxProspects summation on righthanded reliever Austin Maddox:
    Summation: Projects as an organizational arm. Average three-pitch mix. Throws strikes, usually around the zone. Lacks above-average offering to project as a major league arm, but if any pitch takes a step forward, could get a cup of coffee. Should develop into a solid organizational bullpen arm who bounces around the high minors.
    http://www.soxprospects.com/players/maddox-austin.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by harmony View Post
    The SoxProspects summation on righthanded reliever Austin Maddox:

    http://www.soxprospects.com/players/maddox-austin.htm
    I don't think they've updated his profile. He got more than a "cup of coffee" already.

    Either way, he's worth more than Holt.

    I'm wondering, if they'd want Hembree, who is out of options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I don't think they've updated his profile. He got more than a "cup of coffee" already.

    Either way, he's worth more than Holt.

    I'm wondering, if they'd want Hembree, who is out of options.
    It should be updated to say "a pot of coffee."
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I do agree. The Sox would make the deal in a heartbeat.

    Merrifield has played a lot of OF in the minors, so he could double as our 4th OF'er.

    I'd even throw in another mid-level prospect like Shawaryn or Travis, if needed.
    Whit Merrifield tied Jackie Bradley Jr. for the team lead in home runs on the 2010 University of South Carolina baseball team:

    http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sport....html#TEAM.GMS

    Merrifield was the only Gamecock to start all 70 games that season.

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