Originally Posted by
Emmz;691765;
It's pretty much just you saying he's got a good WAR, and me stating how he's a bad hitter, and that he's ineffective sooner rather than later. His WAR is all in his defense, and his offense is all due to how many pitches he takes. You never once mentioned stats from 2009 or his current stats, just 2010. I did at first say that his 2010 was offensively was mediocre, but I was referring to his hitting, which is why I mentioned OPS/OPS+. Last year was good, his .760 OPS last year wasn't very impressive at all, but his value is in his speed and OBP, which I would acknowledge.
You never mentioned anything about 2011, or 2009, the two years that are most identical to each other, and we most identical to each other when the discussion took place. Either way, he's the product of whatever perfectage he gets on base. I tell you, I don't see that being very effective a few years from now.