Register now to remove this ad

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 40

Thread: Royal Wedding?

  1. #16
    Super, Duper Moderator Youk Of The Nation's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    19,286

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Of course they do! Divine provenance!
    Quote Originally Posted by YANKEESRULE View Post
    Yea got hand it to the Sox, they just could not go queitly into the night. Well, they are just post-poning the inevitable.
    - From the 2004 ALCS Game 4 Gamethread. A reminder that no game is over until the final out is recorded, and things will always get better. Misspellings unchanged as a reminder that Yankees fans are just terrible.

  2. #17

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSox;638395;
    You mean like most people who watch sports? You mean like most people who play fantasy [insert sport]? You mean like people who play video games?

    Goes both ways mate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Youk Of The Nation;638635;

    Athletes and actors at least do something.
    That.

    With watching sports and stuff like that at least it actually involves people who have some sort of talent or ability that's interesting to watch. It's watching people put good abilities to use to reach a goal. I'm not watching their private life. 2 people getting married is their private life.Video Games is just a way to pass time, and a lot of it at least requires strategy and shit like that. And I don't really like how this is a oyal family, who has all the money in the world, but still tax payers are paying for some of that. If I was British I'd be pretty pissed that my momey was going toward a freakin wedding.


    I don't care how anyone can spin it, watching famous/high poisition people live their lives is pathetic. Whether it be making a big deal out of a royal wedding or reading those stupid magazines that have dumb gossip about what famous person is dating who or where they went on vacation or whatever, it's stupid.

  3. #18

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter;638642;
    I have nothing against people who are born to wealth. Their families earned it. Bill Gates family has every right to enjoy his wealth. He earned it. What I despise about the Royals is they are still taking taxpayer money. Enough is enough. They have enough money to put it ti work for themselves and be self-sufficient. Do they really need to increase their wealth taking taxes from the common man?
    Bill Gates' wealth largely derives from the work of other people, and the benefits society has granted him. He is obscenely overpaid while his workers are struggling to ward off the depression.

    Sounds just like the Royal Wedding, except Gates is just a partial parasite.

  4. #19
    Your pal, Pal Palodios's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    13,946

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638767;
    Bill Gates' wealth largely derives from the work of other people, and the benefits society has granted him. He is obscenely overpaid while his workers are struggling to ward off the depression.

    Sounds just like the Royal Wedding, except Gates is just a partial parasite.
    Sounds like someone is a mac person:lol:

    I don't get what people have against Gates. His business practices weren't exactly great, but he has done more for the world than any other person from his generation. I would argue that his anti-competition business tactics actually were a positive step forward to get early computing off the ground. Even after retiring, the guy has donated 28 billion dollars to charity.

  5. #20

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Palodios;638773;
    Sounds like someone is a mac person:lol:

    I don't get what people have against Gates. His business practices weren't exactly great, but he has done more for the world than any other person from his generation. I would argue that his anti-competition business tactics actually were a positive step forward to get early computing off the ground. Even after retiring, the guy has donated 28 billion dollars to charity.
    The problem I have with Gates is that he greatly overvalues his own individual contributions, while ignoring the major contributions society has granted him which allowed him to earn his billions in the first place.

    As for his charity contributions, they are all well and good, but you can't ignore that they are opportunistic based on tax write-offs, and the fact that he can donate $28 billion without blinking proves how unfairly concentrated wealth is in the first place.

  6. #21

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by YAZMAN;638350;
    Keep in mind most of the responses you are getting are from adolescent males.:lol:

    The coverage is fine - if you don't like it, then change the channel. The majority of adults here are interested.

    I remember Prince Charles and Lady Diana getting married, I think Wills was born my senior year. It's been interesting for me to watch him grow up during the transformation of the royal family. America was fascinated with Diana. I think she was the first royal people here could relate to. The wedding of Charles and Diana, while elegant, was stuffy. Wills and Kate's wedding was elegant and most people felt some connectivity in the sense that these kids seem well rounded, well grounded, and genuinely in love with each other. It is the fairy tale, but it's also right, so a happy ending is anticipated.

    The general feeling I get is that Diana shocked the world with her forward nature and penchant for openness that bordered at times on full disclosure. She mortified the royals, but the people identified with her. When she was gone, the royals finally figured out how much she bridged the gap between them and the common people, each of whom never really understood the other. They learned, they adjusted, and in a sense they followed the lead she set by letting the kids do this right.

    This wedding was a perfect blend between the pomp and tradition, and the newly found ability to be ones' self and recognize others while still maintaining royalty. Wearing a military uniform both earned and steeped in tradition, yet recognizing the troops in doing so. The maid of honor wearing white, but looking elegant and completely in tune at the same time.

    This was a meld of the old guard and the new, the wedding simultaneously showed you what has been and what will be. It did so with class, with dignity, and with a breathe of fresh air. Today you witnessed the official entrance of the royal family into the 21st century. William and Kate today brought the family's history, the family's future, and the family's redemption in the eyes of the world - something the family has, in my opinion, been working at but sorely missing on to this point.

    Yes, God may save the Queen. But these two kids did an awful lot today in helping Him with that task.
    I wish they would show the coverage of the pre-crime raids on the poor people of London who planned on protesting this pompous ceremony. I wonder how these two people sleep at night knowing that London's college students are being turned out of universities. Are they at all bothered that they received $100 million (probably A LOT more), while austerity measures are taking away basic safety nets from their fellow Englishmen? It didn't look like it on Friday, and the fact that elitist commentators can pretend that these hidden opportunity costs doesn't exist proves how disgustingly nauseating this ceremony was.

  7. #22
    Your pal, Pal Palodios's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    13,946

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638783;
    The problem I have with Gates is that he greatly overvalues his own individual contributions, while ignoring the major contributions society has granted him which allowed him to earn his billions in the first place.
    '
    I don't know what you mean by this.

    As for his charity contributions, they are all well and good, but you can't ignore that they are opportunistic based on tax write-offs, and the fact that he can donate $28 billion without blinking proves how unfairly concentrated wealth is in the first place.
    He's donated 28 billion dollars. That's 50% of what his net worth is now. I'd barely call that blinking.

  8. #23

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Palodios;638836;
    '
    I don't know what you mean by this.
    Take for example the personal computer. Without it, Gates operating system would be worthless. The personal computer was funded largely by the federal government, as was the internet, and much other early advances in computer technology. In other words, your tax dollars paid for the R&D, which made Microsoft possible in the first place. Gates keeps $160 billion, you get austerity measures. Great system we have.


    He's donated 28 billion dollars. That's 50% of what his net worth is now. I'd barely call that blinking.
    His net worth is substantially higher than that. I believe it is $160 billion, but even we accept your point of $28 billion he still has that other $28 billion. Not a bad sum of money.

  9. #24

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638802;
    I wish they would show the coverage of the pre-crime raids on the poor people of London who planned on protesting this pompous ceremony. I wonder how these two people sleep at night knowing that London's college students are being turned out of universities. Are they at all bothered that they received $100 million (probably A LOT more), while austerity measures are taking away basic safety nets from their fellow Englishmen? It didn't look like it on Friday, and the fact that elitist commentators can pretend that these hidden opportunity costs doesn't exist proves how disgustingly nauseating this ceremony was.
    Surprising to hear an American, presuming you are an American, mentioning the fee's being introduced in the UK, a lot of people in the UK myself included think that students should pay towards the education that will benefit them.

    You mention the money that it would have cost to put the royal wedding on, and I would say that it hasn't cost no where near $100 or ?60 milllion. The soldiers would have got their wages anyway even if they were sat at home, they where the Irish gaurds, the Scots Gaurds, the Welsh gaurds, the household cavarly and the lifegaurds, and it is their job to do all that ceremonialy shit. So to get them to do that stuff they did wouldn't have cost anymore in wages for the show they put on cause I have said that is their job which they get paid to do.

    Another point you are missing is that if you tried to pay for that kind of advertising to reach a global audience that the wedding did to try to attract tourists to the UK from around the world then it would cost much more.

  10. #25

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diaby does Gallas;638889;
    Surprising to hear an American, presuming you are an American, mentioning the fee's being introduced in the UK, a lot of people in the UK myself included think that students should pay towards the education that will benefit them.
    Yes, but isn't it true that hikes in tuition will rob many poor students of any realistic chance they have at going to University?

    You mention the money that it would have cost to put the royal wedding on, and I would say that it hasn't cost no where near $100 or ?60 milllion. The soldiers would have got their wages anyway even if they were sat at home, they where the Irish gaurds, the Scots Gaurds, the Welsh gaurds, the household cavarly and the lifegaurds, and it is their job to do all that ceremonialy shit. So to get them to do that stuff they did wouldn't have cost anymore in wages for the show they put on cause I have said that is their job which they get paid to do.

    Another point you are missing is that if you tried to pay for that kind of advertising to reach a global audience that the wedding did to try to attract tourists to the UK from around the world then it would cost much more.
    I'm skeptical that had there been no ceremony that it would have been roughly equivalent to the daily pay of the guards. Especially with overtime, and extra policing needed to provide security.

    There are probably better things to be focused on, but while the working people of the world see their expenses rise, and their incomes fall, I just find the pompous celebration of the "Royals" to be in poor taste.

    Does anyone remember that lavish celebration that Obama had during the '09 inauguration? $170 million, while the recession deepened. The mentality of our elite rulers seems to be common, regardless of national borders. All for me, and none for you. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go work my graveyard shift at $7.50 an hour.

  11. #26

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638802;
    I wish they would show the coverage of the pre-crime raids on the poor people of London who planned on protesting this pompous ceremony. I wonder how these two people sleep at night knowing that London's college students are being turned out of universities. Are they at all bothered that they received $100 million (probably A LOT more), while austerity measures are taking away basic safety nets from their fellow Englishmen? It didn't look like it on Friday, and the fact that elitist commentators can pretend that these hidden opportunity costs doesn't exist proves how disgustingly nauseating this ceremony was.
    Quote Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638940;
    Yes, but isn't it true that hikes in tuition will rob many poor students of any realistic chance they have at going to University?



    I'm skeptical that had there been no ceremony that it would have been roughly equivalent to the daily pay of the guards. Especially with overtime, and extra policing needed to provide security.

    There are probably better things to be focused on, but while the working people of the world see their expenses rise, and their incomes fall, I just find the pompous celebration of the "Royals" to be in poor taste.

    Does anyone remember that lavish celebration that Obama had during the '09 inauguration? $170 million, while the recession deepened. The mentality of our elite rulers seems to be common, regardless of national borders. All for me, and none for you. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go work my graveyard shift at $7.50 an hour.
    I'm not sure if I should get you an autographed copy of Chomsky on Anarchism, or a VW bus and a pound of weed.

    BTW, did you watch the Super Bowl? You know, our de facto national holiday where a few hundred million of the common man get drunk, eat too much, and engage in all sorts of socially beneficial exercises. Well, that 100M spent on the wedding would have bought about 16 1/2 minutes of ad time.

    Of course, that was the Super Bowl, not some stupid wedding. I mean, it's not like the wedding was an international event with a common thread that united a billion or so people for a few days. And look at all the angst it caused.
    Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they hide is crucial. Aaron Levenstein

  12. #27
    Your pal, Pal Palodios's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    13,946

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638864;
    Take for example the personal computer. Without it, Gates operating system would be worthless. The personal computer was funded largely by the federal government, as was the internet, and much other early advances in computer technology. In other words, your tax dollars paid for the R&D, which made Microsoft possible in the first place. Gates keeps $160 billion, you get austerity measures. Great system we have.
    So because the government funded technology, that makes Gates's accomplishments not as big a deal? That's the equivalent of saying Carnegie Steel was only successful because the government paid for railroads. Microsoft universalized things. They set a standard.

  13. #28
    King of TalkSox a700hitter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    69,810

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638767;
    Bill Gates' wealth largely derives from the work of other people, and the benefits society has granted him. He is obscenely overpaid while his workers are struggling to ward off the depression.

    Sounds just like the Royal Wedding, except Gates is just a partial parasite.
    What benefits has "society granted" Bill Gates? Were these benefits by virtue of his social standing based on a birthright?

    Gates not only earned his money, but he played a significant role in a worldwide technological revolution that has created new industries and many jobs. It's a common ploy of unproductive socialist parasites to denigrate the earned success of others by attributing it to some unfair advantage provided by an unfair society.
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

  14. #29
    omgwtfbbq Emmz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    11,295

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter;639220;
    What benefits has "society granted" Bill Gates? Were these benefits by virtue of his social standing based on a birthright?

    Gates not only earned his money, but he played a significant role in a worldwide technological revolution that has created new industries and many jobs. It's a common ploy of unproductive socialist parasites to denigrate the earned success of others by attributing it to some unfair advantage provided by an unfair society.
    This.

  15. #30

    Re: Royal Wedding?

    Yes, but isn't it true that hikes in tuition will rob many poor students of any realistic chance they have at going to University?
    This isn't true, as if you come from a poorer back ground then you wont have to pay the full tuition fees and even so you don't have to pay the fees until to you earn over 20k per anum.

    I'm skeptical that had there been no ceremony that it would have been roughly equivalent to the daily pay of the guards. Especially with overtime, and extra policing needed to provide security.
    The soldiers don't get paid overtime, as they are full time soldiers so the only time they get paid extra is when they go to war. The police would have cost extra in overtime, but as I said earlier the number of people who will now visit the UK will more than recoup any money that has been paid there.

    There are probably better things to be focused on, but while the working people of the world see their expenses rise, and their incomes fall, I just find the pompous celebration of the "Royals" to be in poor taste.
    Apart from the security the rest of the costs were met by the royal family, so it didn't really cost the tax payer much extra, so the tax payer will see a return on the money they paid for security.

    Does anyone remember that lavish celebration that Obama had during the '09 inauguration? $170 million, while the recession deepened. The mentality of our elite rulers seems to be common, regardless of national borders. All for me, and none for you. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go work my graveyard shift at $7.50 an hour.
    I aint saying that you are wrong not liking the extravagent weddings or lifestyles of the upper classes or the uber rich, especially when other people are losing their jobs etc.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •