Of course they do! Divine provenance!
Of course they do! Divine provenance!
Originally Posted by CanadianSox;638395;
That.Originally Posted by Youk Of The Nation;638635;
With watching sports and stuff like that at least it actually involves people who have some sort of talent or ability that's interesting to watch. It's watching people put good abilities to use to reach a goal. I'm not watching their private life. 2 people getting married is their private life.Video Games is just a way to pass time, and a lot of it at least requires strategy and shit like that. And I don't really like how this is a oyal family, who has all the money in the world, but still tax payers are paying for some of that. If I was British I'd be pretty pissed that my momey was going toward a freakin wedding.
I don't care how anyone can spin it, watching famous/high poisition people live their lives is pathetic. Whether it be making a big deal out of a royal wedding or reading those stupid magazines that have dumb gossip about what famous person is dating who or where they went on vacation or whatever, it's stupid.
Bill Gates' wealth largely derives from the work of other people, and the benefits society has granted him. He is obscenely overpaid while his workers are struggling to ward off the depression.Originally Posted by a700hitter;638642;
Sounds just like the Royal Wedding, except Gates is just a partial parasite.
Sounds like someone is a mac person:lol:Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638767;
I don't get what people have against Gates. His business practices weren't exactly great, but he has done more for the world than any other person from his generation. I would argue that his anti-competition business tactics actually were a positive step forward to get early computing off the ground. Even after retiring, the guy has donated 28 billion dollars to charity.
The problem I have with Gates is that he greatly overvalues his own individual contributions, while ignoring the major contributions society has granted him which allowed him to earn his billions in the first place.Originally Posted by Palodios;638773;
As for his charity contributions, they are all well and good, but you can't ignore that they are opportunistic based on tax write-offs, and the fact that he can donate $28 billion without blinking proves how unfairly concentrated wealth is in the first place.
I wish they would show the coverage of the pre-crime raids on the poor people of London who planned on protesting this pompous ceremony. I wonder how these two people sleep at night knowing that London's college students are being turned out of universities. Are they at all bothered that they received $100 million (probably A LOT more), while austerity measures are taking away basic safety nets from their fellow Englishmen? It didn't look like it on Friday, and the fact that elitist commentators can pretend that these hidden opportunity costs doesn't exist proves how disgustingly nauseating this ceremony was.Originally Posted by YAZMAN;638350;
'Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638783;
I don't know what you mean by this.
He's donated 28 billion dollars. That's 50% of what his net worth is now. I'd barely call that blinking.As for his charity contributions, they are all well and good, but you can't ignore that they are opportunistic based on tax write-offs, and the fact that he can donate $28 billion without blinking proves how unfairly concentrated wealth is in the first place.
Take for example the personal computer. Without it, Gates operating system would be worthless. The personal computer was funded largely by the federal government, as was the internet, and much other early advances in computer technology. In other words, your tax dollars paid for the R&D, which made Microsoft possible in the first place. Gates keeps $160 billion, you get austerity measures. Great system we have.Originally Posted by Palodios;638836;
His net worth is substantially higher than that. I believe it is $160 billion, but even we accept your point of $28 billion he still has that other $28 billion. Not a bad sum of money.He's donated 28 billion dollars. That's 50% of what his net worth is now. I'd barely call that blinking.
Surprising to hear an American, presuming you are an American, mentioning the fee's being introduced in the UK, a lot of people in the UK myself included think that students should pay towards the education that will benefit them.Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638802;
You mention the money that it would have cost to put the royal wedding on, and I would say that it hasn't cost no where near $100 or ?60 milllion. The soldiers would have got their wages anyway even if they were sat at home, they where the Irish gaurds, the Scots Gaurds, the Welsh gaurds, the household cavarly and the lifegaurds, and it is their job to do all that ceremonialy shit. So to get them to do that stuff they did wouldn't have cost anymore in wages for the show they put on cause I have said that is their job which they get paid to do.
Another point you are missing is that if you tried to pay for that kind of advertising to reach a global audience that the wedding did to try to attract tourists to the UK from around the world then it would cost much more.
Yes, but isn't it true that hikes in tuition will rob many poor students of any realistic chance they have at going to University?Originally Posted by Diaby does Gallas;638889;
I'm skeptical that had there been no ceremony that it would have been roughly equivalent to the daily pay of the guards. Especially with overtime, and extra policing needed to provide security.You mention the money that it would have cost to put the royal wedding on, and I would say that it hasn't cost no where near $100 or ?60 milllion. The soldiers would have got their wages anyway even if they were sat at home, they where the Irish gaurds, the Scots Gaurds, the Welsh gaurds, the household cavarly and the lifegaurds, and it is their job to do all that ceremonialy shit. So to get them to do that stuff they did wouldn't have cost anymore in wages for the show they put on cause I have said that is their job which they get paid to do.
Another point you are missing is that if you tried to pay for that kind of advertising to reach a global audience that the wedding did to try to attract tourists to the UK from around the world then it would cost much more.
There are probably better things to be focused on, but while the working people of the world see their expenses rise, and their incomes fall, I just find the pompous celebration of the "Royals" to be in poor taste.
Does anyone remember that lavish celebration that Obama had during the '09 inauguration? $170 million, while the recession deepened. The mentality of our elite rulers seems to be common, regardless of national borders. All for me, and none for you. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go work my graveyard shift at $7.50 an hour.
Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638802;
I'm not sure if I should get you an autographed copy of Chomsky on Anarchism, or a VW bus and a pound of weed.Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638940;
BTW, did you watch the Super Bowl? You know, our de facto national holiday where a few hundred million of the common man get drunk, eat too much, and engage in all sorts of socially beneficial exercises. Well, that 100M spent on the wedding would have bought about 16 1/2 minutes of ad time.
Of course, that was the Super Bowl, not some stupid wedding. I mean, it's not like the wedding was an international event with a common thread that united a billion or so people for a few days. And look at all the angst it caused.
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So because the government funded technology, that makes Gates's accomplishments not as big a deal? That's the equivalent of saying Carnegie Steel was only successful because the government paid for railroads. Microsoft universalized things. They set a standard.Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638864;
What benefits has "society granted" Bill Gates? Were these benefits by virtue of his social standing based on a birthright?Originally Posted by snydersminipretzels;638767;
Gates not only earned his money, but he played a significant role in a worldwide technological revolution that has created new industries and many jobs. It's a common ploy of unproductive socialist parasites to denigrate the earned success of others by attributing it to some unfair advantage provided by an unfair society.
This.Originally Posted by a700hitter;639220;
This isn't true, as if you come from a poorer back ground then you wont have to pay the full tuition fees and even so you don't have to pay the fees until to you earn over 20k per anum.Yes, but isn't it true that hikes in tuition will rob many poor students of any realistic chance they have at going to University?
The soldiers don't get paid overtime, as they are full time soldiers so the only time they get paid extra is when they go to war. The police would have cost extra in overtime, but as I said earlier the number of people who will now visit the UK will more than recoup any money that has been paid there.I'm skeptical that had there been no ceremony that it would have been roughly equivalent to the daily pay of the guards. Especially with overtime, and extra policing needed to provide security.
Apart from the security the rest of the costs were met by the royal family, so it didn't really cost the tax payer much extra, so the tax payer will see a return on the money they paid for security.There are probably better things to be focused on, but while the working people of the world see their expenses rise, and their incomes fall, I just find the pompous celebration of the "Royals" to be in poor taste.
I aint saying that you are wrong not liking the extravagent weddings or lifestyles of the upper classes or the uber rich, especially when other people are losing their jobs etc.Does anyone remember that lavish celebration that Obama had during the '09 inauguration? $170 million, while the recession deepened. The mentality of our elite rulers seems to be common, regardless of national borders. All for me, and none for you. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go work my graveyard shift at $7.50 an hour.