Considering he's made 0 errors himself, I don't see how that's relevant.Originally Posted by AtWork;686351;
Considering he's made 0 errors himself, I don't see how that's relevant.
And the reason they're determined to be UNEARNED runs is...
If history tells us anything, the path to redeption for any bad baseball team is marked with a deep rotation of durable starters, a world class defense in both infield and outfield, a lineup that can generate runs in more than one way, a bullpen that won't steal defeat from the jaws of victory, and a top end catcher to hold the whole package together. These are the conditions by which victory is achieved, anything that does not accomplish these objectives is a waste of resources.
I'm sure that has a lot to do with the amount of wild pitches/passed balls that come with the knuckler, not to mention that the ball comes off the bat differently from a knuckleball than a regular pitch, which results in miscues defensively.
Personally, I hate the knuckleball, so I'm not a huge Wakefield fan at this point. You can't argue how much he has done for this team in the past, so it's not like I don't like him as a person and don't appreciate him, because I do. Wakefield is just out of shape, old, can't field his position well, and throws a pitch that is incredibly inconsistent. I'd rather see Weiland out there than Wakefield personally. Again, nothing against Wakefield as a person at all, I just don't think he's effective, especially as his innings continue to climb.
The best run he has had has been the stretch that he is in currently. and the Sox have lost 2 of those 4 games. He hasn't had more than 2 QS in a row except for his current run. Each time that he has had back to back Quality Starts he has followed those with back to back bad outings.
The King of TalkSox has Spoken.
Becuase they don't count towards the outcome of the game? Oh wait...
Come on, you're smarter than that. I'm sure you realize that most of the unearned runs that Wakefield allows are a direct result of his pitching style. He's always allowed a lot of unearned runs, it's not just one flukey year.
They're still called unearned runs for a reason.
If history tells us anything, the path to redeption for any bad baseball team is marked with a deep rotation of durable starters, a world class defense in both infield and outfield, a lineup that can generate runs in more than one way, a bullpen that won't steal defeat from the jaws of victory, and a top end catcher to hold the whole package together. These are the conditions by which victory is achieved, anything that does not accomplish these objectives is a waste of resources.
Fair enough. But I stand by my belief that he's a perfectly fine #6 or 7 starter.
Too me, the age decides it. He is 45, 5 years away from 50, which is pretty close.
-He already set for 2000, strikeouts. He has something like 2018.
- If he doesnt win 200 this year, I would play another year because your could also get 600 Games, 3000 Hits Allowed (not saying he wants that one)
So if you look at it, he needs some more milestones that need to be finished, so even if he is not on the Red Sox, I say another year will fit him good. Since is major league debut (2 ERA) he has been always in the 4 ERA.
He's OK for a 6th or 7th starter but I'd rather we go a different route once Doubront is healthy and see if we can get a pitcher who's OK for a 4th or 5th starter.
I liked Doubront last season, but he's had atleast 3 injuries since his debut. He might not be healthy enough to hold down a spot for the full year.
I agree, I was talking about the rest of this year. I'm all for going out and getting another starter this offseason.
Yeah, but you can't pick and choose when Doubront's going to be injured. This year, the 5th spot was his for the taking, and how did that work out?
The worst that's going to happen is that he gets hurt again and we're back where we started with Wakefield in September.
But if we decide to go with Doubront instead of Wakefield, as you suggested, when Doubront goes down, there will be no Wakefield to replace him.
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