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    Midseason Draft Round 1: #1 italstallion vs #8 flynnatic

    Italstallion

    C: Brian McCann
    1B: Justin Morneau
    2B: Chase Utley
    SS: Rafael Furcal
    3B: Ryan Zimmerman
    LF: Carl Crawford
    CF: Torii Hunter
    RF: Shin Soo Choo
    DH: Manny Ramirez


    Lineup

    1. Carl Crawford (L)
    2. Chase Utley (L)
    3. Ryan Zimmerman (R)
    4. Justin Morneau (L)
    5. Manny Ramirez (R)
    6. Brian McCann (L)
    7. Torii Hunter (R)
    8. Shin Soo Choo (L)
    9. Rafael Furcal (S)

    Bench

    BE: Geovany Soto C (R)
    BE: Yunel Escobar SS (R)
    BE: Lance Berkman 1B/RF (S)
    BE: Rickie Weeks 2B (R)
    BE: Jorge Cantu 3B (R)

    Rotation

    SP: Zack Greinke (R)
    SP: Roy Oswalt (R)
    SP: Jeff Niemann (R)
    SP: Ryan Dempster (R)
    SP: Hiroki Kuroda (R)

    Bullpen

    LR: JA Happ (L)
    MR: Tim Stauffer (R)
    MR: Darren Oliver (L)
    SU: Neftali Feliz (R)
    SU: Carlos Marmol (R)
    CL: Billy Wagner (L)

    Flynnatic

    C Jorge Posada
    1B Prince Fielder
    2B Brandon Phillips
    3B Pablo Sandoval
    SS Jimmy Rollins
    RF Jason Heyward
    CF Curtis Granderson
    LF Martin Prado
    DH Carlos Pena

    Lineup

    1. Jimmy Rollins
    2. Martin Prado
    3. Brandon Phillips
    4. Prince Fielder
    5. Carlos Pena
    6. Jason Heyward
    7. Pablo Sandoval
    8. Jorge Posada
    9. Curtis Granderson

    Rotation

    1. Roy Halladay
    2. Josh Johnson
    3. Yovani Gallardo
    4. Mark Buerhle
    5. Phil Hughes

    Bullpen

    LR Ricky Romero
    MR Tony Sipp
    MR Max Scherzer
    SU Huston Street
    SU Joe Nathan
    CL Joakim Soria

    Bench

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    Re: Midseason Draft Round 1: #1 italstallion vs #8 flynnatic

    C: Brian McCann >> Posada
    1B: Justin Morneau > Fielder
    2B: Chase Utley push Brandon Phillips
    SS: Rafael Furcal push Jimmy Rollins
    3B: Ryan Zimmerman >> Pablo Sandoval 5-0
    LF: Carl Crawford >> Martin Prado (flynnatic didn't have a 3rd outfield so I put Prado there since he's rather versatile)
    CF: Torii Hunter > Curtis Granderson
    RF: Shin Soo Choo > Jason Heyward
    DH: Manny Ramirez push Carlos Pena 9-0 italstallion

    SP: Zack Greinke (R) < Halladay
    SP: Roy Oswalt (R) < Josh Johnson
    SP: Jeff Niemann (R) < Gallardo
    SP: Ryan Dempster (R) > Buehrle
    SP: Hiroki Kuroda (R) push Phil Hughes 10-3 italstallion

    LR: JA Happ (L) < Ricky Romero
    MR: Tim Stauffer (R) > Tony Sipp
    MR: Darren Oliver (L) > Scherzer
    SU: Neftali Feliz (R) > Street
    SU: Carlos Marmol (R) > Nathan
    CL: Billy Wagner (L) < Soria 14-5 italstallion, blowout win for him

    Not to mention that flynnatic doesn't have a bench
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    Re: Midseason Draft Round 1: #1 italstallion vs #8 flynnatic

    Quote Originally Posted by yrtb;570161;
    Not to mention that flynnatic doesn't have a bench
    that's a low blow!

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    Re: Midseason Draft Round 1: #1 italstallion vs #8 flynnatic

    haha fair enough, it's still 14-5
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    Re: Midseason Draft Round 1: #1 italstallion vs #8 flynnatic

    C: Brian McCann >> Posada
    1B: Justin Morneau < Fielder
    2B: Chase Utley >Brandon Phillips
    SS: Rafael Furcal <Jimmy Rollins
    3B: Ryan Zimmerman >> Pablo Sandoval
    LF: Carl Crawford >> Martin Prado
    CF: Torii Hunter > Curtis Granderson
    RF: Shin Soo Choo > Jason Heyward
    DH: Manny Ramirez >Carlos Pena

    SP: Zack Greinke (R) < Halladay
    SP: Roy Oswalt (R) < Josh Johnson
    SP: Jeff Niemann (R) < Gallardo
    SP: Ryan Dempster (R) > Buehrle
    SP: Hiroki Kuroda (R) <Phil Hughes

    LR: JA Happ (L) < Ricky Romero
    MR: Tim Stauffer (R) > Tony Sipp
    MR: Darren Oliver (L) > Scherzer
    SU: Neftali Feliz (R) > Street
    SU: Carlos Marmol (R) > Nathan
    CL: Billy Wagner (L) < Soria 14-5
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    Re: Midseason Draft Round 1: #1 italstallion vs #8 flynnatic

    Since Flynnatic doesn't have a bench, I'm not going to factor my bench into the equation.

    Anyway, for a position by position analysis

    Mccann > Posada

    Morneau > Fielder

    Utley > Phillips (look at the triple slash) Utley's OPS .915/.905/.849 vs. Phillip's OPS .754/.776/.788

    Zimmerman > Sandoval

    Furcal < Rollins (Furcal is having an amazing year, but Rollins makes up for it for the past 2 years)

    Choo > Heyward

    Hunter > Granderson

    Crawford > Prado

    Ramirez > Pena (I almost had it as a push, but Ramirez hits for power and average. He's a 3-4-5 player (300 avg/400 obp/500 slg) while Carlos Pena is hitting .212.

    Offense: Team Erin Andrews Likes It Raw 8, Flynnatic 1

    Starting Pitching (The meat of Flynnatic's team)

    Greinke < Halladay (in my opinion, Halladay is the best pitcher in the game)

    Oswalt < Johnson (another top SP)

    Niemann < Gallardo (I wanted to go Niemann, but Gallardo is better all around)

    Dempster > Buerhle

    Kuroda > Hughes (Kuroda has been more consistent, and a lot of Hughes' good numbers have come from his relief appearances. Kuroda has done better this year in my opinion, plus Hughes' horrible 2008 counts.)

    Starting Pitching: Team Erin Andrews Likes It Raw 2, Flynnatic 3


    Bullpen:

    Happ > Romero (I'm saying this because Ricky Romero doesn't have relief experience, so I'm not sure if his numbers can be applied to a relief role. Before Happ's most recent start, he was unhittable. Happ also destroys Romero in previous years numbers.

    Stauffer > Sipp (.76 ERA)

    Oliver > Scherzer (again, not sure if Scherzer qualifies for a relief spot) Oliver is also a battle tested lefty with great numbers over the past few years. He can also go multiple innings and pitch many innings over the course of a season

    Feliz > Street

    Marmol > Nathan (if it weren't for Nathan's injury and not pitching this year, he'd win this one)

    Wagner < Soria (Soria is one of the only closers that I think has better numbers than Wagner. Rivera and maybe 1-2 other closers would beat Wagner)

    Bullpen: Team Erin Andrews Likes It Raw 5, Flynnatic 1



    (Normally I'd factor the bench in, but Flynnatic's bench isn't complete) Also, I think the fact that I have a better team name should give me another point.

    Team Erin Andrews Likes It Raw 16, Flynnatic 5

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    Re: Midseason Draft Round 1: #1 italstallion vs #8 flynnatic

    Quote Originally Posted by yrtb;570161;
    C: Brian McCann >> Posada
    1B: Justin Morneau > Fielder
    2B: Chase Utley push Brandon Phillips
    SS: Rafael Furcal push Jimmy Rollins
    3B: Ryan Zimmerman >> Pablo Sandoval 5-0
    LF: Carl Crawford >> Martin Prado (flynnatic didn't have a 3rd outfield so I put Prado there since he's rather versatile)
    CF: Torii Hunter > Curtis Granderson
    RF: Shin Soo Choo > Jason Heyward
    DH: Manny Ramirez push Carlos Pena 9-0 italstallion

    SP: Zack Greinke (R) < Halladay
    SP: Roy Oswalt (R) < Josh Johnson
    SP: Jeff Niemann (R) < Gallardo
    SP: Ryan Dempster (R) > Buehrle
    SP: Hiroki Kuroda (R) push Phil Hughes 10-3 italstallion

    LR: JA Happ (L) < Ricky Romero
    MR: Tim Stauffer (R) > Tony Sipp
    MR: Darren Oliver (L) > Scherzer
    SU: Neftali Feliz (R) > Street
    SU: Carlos Marmol (R) > Nathan
    CL: Billy Wagner (L) < Soria 14-5 italstallion, blowout win for him

    Not to mention that flynnatic doesn't have a bench
    I pretty much agree with this, but I think Nathan is better then Marmol, when healthy Nathan is arguably the 2nd best closer in the game and I also believe Wagner and Soria is a push due to the amazing year Wagner is having. Either way though, I think Italstallion has better team, I vote for him if I didn't make it clear enough.

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    Re: Midseason Draft Round 1: #1 italstallion vs #8 flynnatic

    Itallionstallion is better in my own opinion. His bullpen wins it.

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