I didn't say anyone was a victim, I said I don't see the point for you guys (all of you, Gom included) to have an 11 page argument about this. It's stupid. Agree to disagree, but don't go back and forth with insults for 11 god damn pages. That was Gom's opinion, erroneous or not there was no reason for you guys to blow this up into what it has become. This was a legitimate thread at one point and now it resides here in the wastelands of talksox.com (aka the Anything Goes forum)...and for what reason? Based on what I have read it seems like people like some people like picking fights regardless of the topic at hand. A yankee fan could say the grass is green and some Sox fans would disagree just for the sake of arguing with a Yankee fan.