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    Manny Ramirez Trade Deadline Thread (renamed)

    http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/ar...eadline_1.html

    Breaking out from the Manny thread:

    The Red Sox and Dodgers are engaged in substantive talks involving Manny Ramirez, according to sources, and if a deal can be finalized the expectation is that Boston would push to the front of the line on obtaining Mark Teixeira from the Braves.
    The Mets New York Mets have continued to talk to the Red Sox without much possibility of finding a deal for Ramirez. The main track now involves the Dodgers. An executive who has spoken with officials from an involved team said it is his understanding that Boston would eat most, if not all, of the roughly $7 million left on Ramirez’s 2008 contract and in exchange would receive a top youngster such as Matt Kemp or Andre Ethier.
    If they obtain Teixeira, the Red Sox could use current first baseman Kevin Youkilis either to replace Ramirez in left or as part of the trade for Teixeira.
    My question becomes - if you move Manny for Kemp or Ethier/+, why even bother trading for Teixeira? Youkilis for Tex is a lateral move, especially at a 2 month rental:

    Kemp for 5 yrs + Youk for 2 >> Kemp for 5 yrs and Tex for 1/2 yr

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    Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez

    I would assume that any Tex deal comes with the caveat of an extension
    Hal sucks

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    Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez

    Don't know, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I'd stand pat with Kemp and Youk.

    Kemp would be a boon for the future of the team. He's 23 and putting up an .813 with 12 dingers and 23 steals in Dodger Stadium. He could approach 30/30 in Fenway with fabulous D to boot.

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    If Theo can turn Manny into Kemp for the rest of the year....wow.

    What if the move for Teixeira comes from Jacoby+? Slide Youk to left, play Kemp in Center?

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    All for naught?

    http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story...13162&ATT=3498

    The Dodgers are not pursuing Red Sox left fielder Manny Ramirez or Braves first Mark Teixeira, according to major-league sources. Their priority remains a shortstop, and they might end up with only a backup at the position, if anyone.

    The Red Sox contacted the Dodgers about Ramirez, just as they've contacted virtually every team that might be interested in the slugger. The Dodgers, however, dismissed the idea, balking at the likely asking price and the circus-like atmosphere surrounding Ramirez.

    "There's too much going on there," one source said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKilo;336917;
    If Theo can turn Manny into Kemp for the rest of the year....wow.

    What if the move for Teixeira comes from Jacoby+? Slide Youk to left, play Kemp in Center?
    I'd rather move Teixeira to left. I think Youk might be slightly better at first then Teixeira. Plus Teixeira can also play OF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zackredsox;336919;
    I'd rather move Teixeira to left. I think Youk might be slightly better at first then Teixeira. Plus Teixeira can also play OF.
    How many games has he played there the last 5 years?

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    Manny for Kemp?:thumbdown Good for the future, but bad for this year.
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

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    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez

    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter;337003;
    Manny for Kemp?:thumbdown Good for the future, but bad for this year.
    They aren't going anywhere this year.

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    Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez

    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter;337003;
    Manny for Kemp?:thumbdown Good for the future, but bad for this year.
    This is the last year of the league?

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Red Seat;337138;
    This is the last year of the league?
    I apologize for wanting to win this year.
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez

    Quote Originally Posted by TheKilo;336998;
    How many games has he played there the last 5 years?
    How about 6 years. 32
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    Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ers/index.html

    The Red Sox appear serious about trading slugger Manny Ramirez and are talking to the Phillies and two other teams about a deal, according to people familiar with the talks.
    It isn't yet known what players would be going back to Boston, but left fielder Pat Burrell is having a similar year statistically (.277/.400/.585 with 26 HRs and 61 RBIs in 103 games for Burrell; .304/.400/.538 with 20 HRs and 68 RBIs in 98 games for Ramirez) and could be a logical fit. He has a no-trade clause but has told the Phillies in the past that he'd be willing to waive it for the Red Sox and Yankees.
    It is also believed that the Dodgers and the Marlins are the other teams involved in the Ramirez Sweepstakes. The Marlins appear to be a longshot.

    While no deal involving Ramirez has been consummated, it appears to be gaining steam.

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    The Florida Marlins???

    trade Manny Ramirez for Hanley Ramirez

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    Re: Dodgers, Sox holding "substantive talks" about Ramirez

    ManRam for HanRam. Great headline
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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