New Talk Sox league?

[sabermatters]

We could do an actual league with all the teams, an adapted league with fewer teams and a fantasy draft, or a totally new league with fake players. We could adapt rules like trade deadline, salary cap, etc. We could have meetings of the GM's online to determine rules and such if we decide to have our league be different from the MLB.

Anyone think this would work or gain any interest?

[Thumper]

Are we talking Yahoo Fantasy, or like a sim league? If it's a sim league I'd be interested. More so if we used players from past eras, or an "all time" generation. But standard is okay too.

[Coco's Disciples]

I think this has already been attempted here, and it failed. Or so I have heard...

[schillingouttheks]

Are we talking Yahoo Fantasy, or like a sim league? If it's a sim league I'd be interested. More so if we used players from past eras, or an "all time" generation. But standard is okay too.

Sim leagues are the bane of yeszir's existance. (HA! SEE WHAT I DID THERE?)

They will never exist on this site ever again, to put it quite simply.

[sabermatters]

A sim league. If nobody wants it or it won't be allowed here then that's fine, but I'd like to try.

[yeszir]

Sim leagues are the bane of yeszir's existance. (HA! SEE WHAT I DID THERE?)

They will never exist on this site ever again, to put it quite simply.

OLD SCHOOL REFERENCE!!!!!

And yea, we've tried 2 sim leagues, and it resulted in absolute utter disaster.

[Thumper]

OLD SCHOOL REFERENCE!!!!!

And yea, we've tried 2 sim leagues, and it resulted in absolute utter disaster.

Third time's the charm? :dunno:

[Gom]

I used to run a sim league. It lasted for 6 years until we all got near the end of college. If you all are interested, I have the perfect system and setup. I have the game engine, system, format, everything. I was thinking of starting it up again, and to tell you the truth, I like it 100 times more than fantasy.

Let me know what you'd want to do.

[yeszir]

I used to run a sim league. It lasted for 6 years until we all got near the end of college. If you all are interested, I have the perfect system and setup. I have the game engine, system, format, everything. I was thinking of starting it up again, and to tell you the truth, I like it 100 times more than fantasy.

Let me know what you'd want to do.

I wouldn't be against it if it was well organized and didnt involve a gaggle of 11 year olds, like both of the last 2 attempts. I could host the necessary webpages on Talksox under a sub-domain I guess.

If its done right, I don't mind it, im not a party pooper. It was just the infestation of people not interested in the site all under the age of 13 that made the other leagues suck.

[Cityofchampions33]

Maybe just keep it in house

[Coco's Disciples]

I actually co-ran something like this with DUSTINMOHR4LIFE for a bit. Didn't go far. But our management was pretty awful anyway.

[Gom]

I wouldn't be against it if it was well organized and didnt involve a gaggle of 11 year olds, like both of the last 2 attempts. I could host the necessary webpages on Talksox under a sub-domain I guess.

If its done right, I don't mind it, im not a party pooper. It was just the infestation of people not interested in the site all under the age of 13 that made the other leagues suck.
Like I said. I've done it before, so I can lend any and all help needed. However, I've got a rule. No one under 21, with the exception made if you are a 1000+ poster here at talksox. Other than that, I'm not interested myself.

[Thumper]

Like I said. I've done it before, so I can lend any and all help needed. However, I've got a rule. No one under 21, with the exception made if you are a 1000+ poster here at talksox. Other than that, I'm not interested myself.

Seems fair enough. I've never done a sim league, but aside from playing, if there's a place where I can help keep it going just let me know.

[ACL BoSox]

ugh, there was mutiny last time there was a sim league

not to mention that there was cheating, and several owners had no clue what they were doing, resulting in extreme competitive unbalance

[Soxfan#1]

Make sure you use OOTP. Gom which one do you have? I can get whatever program you guys want to use.

I think if we kept a post limit/people have to ask to sign up on it then it would be fun

[schillingouttheks]

I'd try it again, but EVERY member has to pick a team BEFORE we start up, and every manager has to have at least 500 posts to participate. Since Sabermatters brought the idea up, he's obviously an exception.

What say you?

[Jayhawk Bill]

I'd try it again, but EVERY member has to pick a team BEFORE we start up, and every manager has to have at least 500 posts to participate.
What say you?

I think that 500 posts is the exact place for the lower limit for participation. As always, I am impressed by your wisdom.

[Soxfan#1]

As always, I am impressed by your wisdom.
:lol: Good one.

[schillingouttheks]

Ouch, or lol?

[Jayhawk Bill]

Ouch, or lol?


LOL. You're the man. :thumbsup:

[schillingouttheks]

:lol:

[Coco's Disciples]

Says the man with 502 posts. I jest JHB. I suppose I'll participate. Could be good.

[Jayhawk Bill]

Says the man with 502 posts.

Well, 503 now...but it was fewer when I thought that 500 posts was the perfect idea. :rolleyes:

[HeadOfSoxNation]

Can someone explain what a sim league aaaaaaaaaactually is? If what I'm picture is what it actually is, it sounds like a lot of fun. I want to get a real idea for it though before I commit to anything.

[Gom]

I have a few versions. I like OOTP5 the best. Plus, it's free. The other option would be Diamondmind. That would allow us to actually play the games head to head online. OOTP will have a central player.

I favor Diamondmind, but it's an investment in cash. If free, OOTP is the way to go. I had a pretty good setup, so it would take me about a week to get it going.

[Cityofchampions33]

Can someone explain what a sim league aaaaaaaaaactually is? If what I'm picture is what it actually is, it sounds like a lot of fun. I want to get a real idea for it though before I commit to anything.

You pick teams of preranked players, meaning they are given designated stats, for example Josh Beckett would be 10-8-10, with those 3 numbers representing stuff, control, and movement. Every player has thsose numbers, for hitters it's like contact, power, and i believe gap power. Anyway, every sim you submit lineups, after you make trades, sign FAs in needed, promote/demote players in your minors and let them develop as well. I've been in a few and they get really fun if they are well managed and long term, it'd be a lot easier to run on this site with everyone, so trades will be made easier.

[Rdsxmbnt]

I'm definetly down for an ootp league. ootp6.5 is definetly the most complete IMO

EDIT: And I definetly agree with the 500 post minimum. I've been in a lot of leagues and 15-20 active GMs (or more) is way way better than trying to fill up the whole league and getting inactive people.

[CrespoBlows]

I'd play.

[ORS]

How's this work? From the sounds of things it's like fantasy, but instead of real performance, it's run through a diamond mind like simulator. Is this correct?

If that's the case, I'd be interested. Of course, I'd like to know more about how it runs the sims. Are we talking depth to the point of considering split stats (platoon batting), park factor, day/night factor, modern runs-based stats, defensive ability, etc?

[Rdsxmbnt]

Heres an example of an OOTP league website: http://netsportssimm.com/

That's one I've been in for a very long time and it's very well run (has to be to last 25+ sim years). You won't be able to recognize any of the players since all the 'modern' players have since retired.

The OOTP software is great and really indepth. All things from drafting players, setting ticket prices, LH/RH splits, to BABIP in relation to defense, etc.

[Ray10]

If this is going to be up and running count me in for sure I love playing in sim leagues I played in a few last year but they ended up flopping eventually would love to get back into playing.

[Gom]

Well, we can do it many ways. I'd like to be involved [commissioner, etc.] since I've had very good experience doing it. However, I can't do it completely alone.

For those of you who know what I'm talking about, there are pro's and con's to each system. The major beauty of Diamond Mind is that you can manage against each other online. This means that you decide who to bring in, when, etc....just like a real game.

For OOTP, the interface is much more user friendly and it's much easier to run the web page. I can check my archives and see if I still have the format for the leagues, I believe I still have it. It's not as accurate as Diamond Mind, but it's a lot of fun, and newbie friendly.

If we go with OOTP, and this is for those that understand the game, we should use BOSE. The interface is ridiculously simplistic, and I can set it up in a weekend.

I would rather personally use players from last year, and just play three seasons in the course of a year. You guys can reach me on AOL at sith712 and I can outline how we ran our league and see if you guys like the idea.

[Rdsxmbnt]

I'd be up for being a co-commish also for an OOTP league. I have a pretty good hosting site that we could use along with a relatively recent roster set.

I'm pretty psyched that this is a possibility and I really think we should give a sim league another go. There are definetly ways to prevent what happened to the past two and this type of site is great for hosting one because posters come here everyday anyway to look at Sox stuff and they can check simleague happenings while they are here.

[Soxfan#1]

I can't find the programs at all. Either theres no exe file for them or people just don't up it for some reason. Sorry Gom.

[Gom]

I have OOTP5. They give it away for free. If you guys are interested, I can upload it to my server and everyone can download it there.

I have no problem simming the games, but maintaing the web site is a pain in the ass. If someone wants to run the stories, that would be great. Reach me via PM here or IM me at sith712 on AIM or Yahoo and we can discuss this further if you all are interested.

[Soxfan#1]

Maybe Rdsxmbnt can do it with you. We didn't have to download anything before.

[Gom]

Well, the reason for everyone having the program is simple. Everyone downloads the league file before game day. You'd have to enter in your password, and you can edit your team. Lineups, rotations, call up/down players, change manager tendencies, etc. Then when you're done, you upload your team file with one click.

From the commissioner side, all we do is download the file from our server, and all your changes are uploaded. It's that simple.

[Soxfan#1]

Woah. Well I guess OOTP has changed since talksox days. <_<

[Rdsxmbnt]

Actually not really. OOTP5 is slightly older than the previous versions used here. But since OOTP5 is now available for free, anyone can download the game for free. That way it's much less work on the commish and much more freedom for lineups by the individual GMs.

[Gom]

Like I said, its all about ease of usage. I'm having trouble finding the Bosi interface, it seems like the guy who created the database took it offline, which is too bad, because it was awesome.

[Gom]

Ok, so who's in and out?

[Cityofchampions33]

I'm in

[YanksHater213]

if everyones gonna do it ill do it too i guess

[Gom]

Ok, here is who's in so far. From my perspective, I'd want at least 12 people in. I'd have some friends of mine who were in my last league that may want in if that's ok with you guys, one of them was my old co-Commish. It's up to you guys.

So far, here's the list:

Sabermatters
Thumper
Gom
SOTK
JHB
Rdsxmbnt
CrespoBlows
ORS
YanksHater
He Hate Me

We still need a lot more. Pass the word around.

[Gom]

How's this work? From the sounds of things it's like fantasy, but instead of real performance, it's run through a diamond mind like simulator. Is this correct?

If that's the case, I'd be interested. Of course, I'd like to know more about how it runs the sims. Are we talking depth to the point of considering split stats (platoon batting), park factor, day/night factor, modern runs-based stats, defensive ability, etc?
We would run split stats, ballpark factors, night/day factors are non-existant in this version, and defensive ability is actually a big factor. It's not like regular fantasy baseball. You have to build a TEAM. Have pinch-runners, and lefty specialists, and manage your bullpen. Are you Torre, who pulls your pitchers after 6 pitches, or do you leave them in longer. Does your manager value defense or offense in the late innings of a close game?

We can selectively choose which features to have in or out, but the majority of them I would suggest we keep. We can make it as in-depth or as simple as we want.

[ORS]

I'm in.

[yeszir]

I can go ahead and create a subforum if there's enough interest. I don't want to make a whole separate section and then have it fizzle out.

I can also host the league website.

[He Hate Me]

I can go ahead and create a subforum if there's enough interest. I don't want to make a whole separate section and then have it fizzle out.

I can also host the league website.

I'll give it a shot. I've never played aything like it before but it looks like fun.

[Gom]

That gives us 10. Still need about two more to make it feasible.

[schillingouttheks]

Sure sure why not...

[Gom]

I have a request. My co-commish from before wants to join up, so he'll join up TalkSox. Can we waive the 500 post minimum? That will give us 11.

[schillingouttheks]

Did you assume that I was already involved when you said we had 10? Cause if not, you skipped over me and your friend would make 12.

[yankee20715]

I'm in should be a lot of fun

[Gom]

I already assumed you were in.

[yeszir]

I'm in should be a lot of fun

Sorry, but there's going to be a post and join date minimum for the most part.

[Gom]

Sorry, but there's going to be a post and join date minimum for the most part.
Yeszir, this is my old co-commish and best friend. He has as much experiencing running a league as I do. I'll personally vouch for him.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

Any way we could throw some dues at this like we do for Fantasy? It tends to keep people interested...

If so, I'd like to play.

[yeszir]

Yeszir, this is my old co-commish and best friend. He has as much experiencing running a league as I do. I'll personally vouch for him.

As long as he's not some rando, I guess its fine. My bad.

[Gom]

Any way we could throw some dues at this like we do for Fantasy? It tends to keep people interested...

If so, I'd like to play.
We could. I have no issues with this, however, I won't be involved in throwing money in. It's not fair to have the commish who runs the league possibly making money. Let's say I win the World Series. Then the next best team wins the money.

I'm in this for fun and gameplay. Last thing I want is someone to think, if I win, that I cheated.

[Gom]

Ok...we've gotten to the magical 12.

The league is as follows:

Sabermatters
Thumper
Gom
SOTK
Coco's Disciples
Rdsxmbnt
Crespo Blows
City of Champions
YanksHater 213
ORS
Yankees20715
HeadofRedSoxNation

Someone reach out to JHB, he mentioned interest. See if Arod2122 or whatever his numbers are, Jacko and HHM, see if they want in. Let's only have adults in this league.

[Gom]

Everyone PM me your team name. Do that to keep from cluttering up the thread.

Go here:

http://ootpdevfiles.com/ootp/ootp5freesetup.exe

Download the game. Install it. Take a few days to play around with it. See what you like, and what you don't like. Then we can decide on the league structure over the weekend and then draft the next week/weekend. While you guys are playing around, I'll find a good roster set. Leave that to me.

Now..a couple of questions:

1) Do you want to play a sim league, or a replay league? A sim league is where eventually we will be using fake players. A replay league is where we use real players and replay the 2007 season. I personally favor a replay. If we end up liking it, there is no reason why we can't convert it to a sim league after the season is done.

2) Do you want to incorporate financials/scouting? I'm not in favor of this. Although OOTP tries to give you the full feel of team management/ownership, a lot of you are new to this. Also, having a cap hinders trading, which is 90% of the fun in this league. I am all for it when you guys get a feel for the program, but as of now, I think it would hurt the league.

If you guys have individual questions, reach me on aim/yahoo at sith712. I can answer your questions faster there. Play around with the game, check out the features. Like any program, we are limited by the program's limitations. However, I've played in these before, and when managed right, they can be ten times more fun than fantasy baseball.

[schillingouttheks]

Haha, amazing. I finally count as an "adult" ... legally.

[Rdsxmbnt]

I vote for sim league.

I also vote for keeping the financial system definetly. Don't do Rule 5 draft/40 man roster/scouting system/salary cap.

It sounds like you're thinking fantasy draft? I think it'd be better to just use current MLB rosters so some people can work on rebuilding teams while others compete now, etc. Also we would adjust revenue to market size to make it more realistic.

[Soxfan#1]

Me?

Edit: Damn it. Fucking baseball clinics kept me off the site for the signup. If there still room I'd love to join.

[Gom]

I vote for sim league.

I also vote for keeping the financial system definetly. Don't do Rule 5 draft/40 man roster/scouting system/salary cap.

It sounds like you're thinking fantasy draft? I think it'd be better to just use current MLB rosters so some people can work on rebuilding teams while others compete now, etc. Also we would adjust revenue to market size to make it more realistic.
If you're not using a cap, whats the purpose of the financial system?

Rdsxmbnt, I agree that the financial system is a great part of OOTP. However, most of these guys haven't played it or are not that familiar with the program. Why not play a test season so they learn the game system, then we can start a historical season that starts in say 1900 or whenever, or just go with a complete and utter sim league. As for just taking teams, I'm strongly against it. Let everyone pick their team and their strategy. Teams like the Yankees, Mets, and Sox have serious advantages.

From past experience, when you try to do too much, people lose interest because there is a learning curve, and no one likes to be behind the curve. You, me and Yankees02715 will have an advantage there. The more it's simplified, the better in the beginning. Just my opinion.

[Gom]

Me?

Edit: Damn it. Fucking baseball clinics kept me off the site for the signup. If there still room I'd love to join.
Soxfan#1 makes 13.

[Soxfan#1]

I vote replay league

[He Hate Me]

Everyone PM me your team name. Do that to keep from cluttering up the thread.

Go here:

http://ootpdevfiles.com/ootp/ootp5freesetup.exe

Download the game. Install it. Take a few days to play around with it. See what you like, and what you don't like. Then we can decide on the league structure over the weekend and then draft the next week/weekend. While you guys are playing around, I'll find a good roster set. Leave that to me.

Now..a couple of questions:

1) Do you want to play a sim league, or a replay league? A sim league is where eventually we will be using fake players. A replay league is where we use real players and replay the 2007 season. I personally favor a replay. If we end up liking it, there is no reason why we can't convert it to a sim league after the season is done.

2) Do you want to incorporate financials/scouting? I'm not in favor of this. Although OOTP tries to give you the full feel of team management/ownership, a lot of you are new to this. Also, having a cap hinders trading, which is 90% of the fun in this league. I am all for it when you guys get a feel for the program, but as of now, I think it would hurt the league.

If you guys have individual questions, reach me on aim/yahoo at sith712. I can answer your questions faster there. Play around with the game, check out the features. Like any program, we are limited by the program's limitations. However, I've played in these before, and when managed right, they can be ten times more fun than fantasy baseball.


I'm in Gom...I vote for sim...sounds like Madden franchise mode :P

[CrespoBlows]

I'd rather use real players, so I'm down for that.

[Gom]

HHM is in. 3-2 in favor of replay so far. Remember, we can always switch from replay to sim, but not vice versa. The reason I like starting it as a sim is because eventually it turns into a replay. It's nice to start with real players, but it's up to everyone else.

In other words. I'm pretty much done. Shouldn't take me more than a couple of hours to get everything set up. We can actually be up and running in days, if not hours if you guys want.

14 players. Two 7 team leagues. 16 would be perfect, 2 leagues, four divisions, four teams per division.

League update.

1) Found a roster set. Pretty solid. Everyone has the same nickname, lol. Going through it as we speak.
2) Found picture sets. Close to 2000 pics. I'll give you all access to it. This way, you can edit the pics for your team players and just send them to me to put in the league file. This is optional. No way I'm going through 2000 pics so it's aesthetically pleasing for you.
3) Found Bill James stadium factors, based upon his calculations. This is huge in building your team. I'll explain the factors to you in a second.
4) Found stadium picture sets. Once you pick stadiums, I'll do it for everyone. 14+ is easy. 2000+face pics aren't. LOL.

Mathematecally speaking, all stadium factors should be set to 100 [thats par for the course]. However, introducing ballpark factors will cause a greater variability in the end result stats, which will make for more unpredictability, and in my opinion, more fun.

Lets take a look at Fenway. The only import numbers are the Ball Park Factors:

Fenway
AVG LH 107
AVG RH 103
DB 128
TR 86
HR LH 82
HR RH 113

Ok, what does this mean? 100 means league average. 100+ means greater than league average, less than 100 means below league average. This means that for BA, Fenway is a hitters park. Both lefties and righties have a higher batting average at Fenway.

Doubles are at 128, which is a big factor. Due to the Monster, a lot more doubles are hit, and those potential outs are now two-baggers.

Probably due to the small confines, less triples are hit at Fenway.

Lefties don't hit homers in Fenway. Righties do at an increased clip.

For drafting purposes, what does this mean? That means Ortiz, playing in Fenway, will probably underperform. Manny will overperform. [The game doesn't realize that they played there in real life]. Beckett will do well in Fenway, Sabathia won't. Get it?

I suggest a preliminary draft before the real draft. First the stadium draft. Then the real draft in reverse order. Picking Fenway, for example, and loading your team with righty power hitters and righty power pitchers will go a long way to insuring you play deep in October. It also helps you in creating a draft strategy, and trading strategy.

This league will be fun.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

Alright so I was looking this over...and it looks wayyyyyyy more time consuming/complicated than anything I've ever messed with before. I was thinking a little bit more in depth than Fantasy, but this thing seems pretty hardcore.

I'd love to do it, but in my last semester of school with all the work and job searches and what not, I don't think I'll have the time. I've gotta bow out. Sorry about that guys.

[Gom]

Down to 13. You bastard. LOL!

I'm trying to reach a balance between time and depth. What I want to do is make it simplistic to start, and as we weed out those that really don't want to play, make it more in-depth. If we try to make it too hard-core, the league will fall apart quickly. That's why I want to disable financials/scouting/minor league system/coaches/Rule 5.

Just make the league all about drafting, trading, and managing. Who really cares about setting up "promotion" give away days at a ball park?

[He Hate Me]

Man the park factors sound too complicated for me lol

plz call my team the Haters

[Soxfan#1]

I am kinda confusizzle.

[Gom]

Ok...we can do with or without them. It doesn't matter.

I'll try explaining them again.

Assume a ballpark factor of 100 to be the league average. 100+ means above league average. Less than 100 means below league average.

So...let's go back to Fenway.


Fenway Park
AVG LH 107
AVG RH 103
DB 128
TR 86
HR LH 82
HR RH 113

Let's just look at homeruns. Remember, it's all based on a factor of 100. So...Left handed hitters hit homers at a rate of 82. League average is 100. Therefore, lefties will hit homers at a much more reduced rate...which is consistent with what really happens at Fenway.

Now right handed hitters hit homers at a rate of 113. League average is 100. So those pop flies that would be doubles or outs on the warning track...well, now, they are homeruns. Consistent with how Fenway is in real life. So whoever chooses Fenway wants to stock up on righty power hitters and righty pitchers. Some parks are notoriously good for something or another.

Like...Coors. Check that out. Before the humidor, punch and judy hitters were blasting homers. So look at that rating. Putting Bonds or Arod in Coors will mean close to 70-80 homers. However, you will completely destroy your pitching rotation. Your bullpen will be burned out, your starters will be out of the game in five innings if you are lucky.....

Think about it...the Rockies started to do well AFTER the humidor for baseballs was used. In fact, history shows that neutral park teams tend to do better. This is your chance to prove/disprove that notion.

Or...we can just make all ballparks 100, meaning all parks are league average in everything...or we can add this dimension.

I like the ball park factors, but I can live with them or without them.

Rdsxmbnt..if they are having trouble with park factors, no way we can do financials the first time around.

[Rdsxmbnt]

Ok...we can do with or without them. It doesn't matter.
Rdsxmbnt..if they are having trouble with park factors, no way we can do financials the first time around.

lol, I'm ok with which ever way we go. I think as simple as possible sounds like a good idea to start with.

[Gom]

:)

Let's ease them into it....it won't hurt honey....trust me, I'll go slow.

[Coco's Disciples]

You are weird.

[Gom]

You are weird.
Weird...no. A freak...yes.....

In fact..thanks...you just gave me my team name...that's my team name. The New York SuperFreaks.

[Soxfan#1]

I got Yung Guns

[Gom]

I got Yung Guns

I know. Give me a city. Otherwise the league reports will come out screwy.

[Thumper]

Okay so from what I understand, we're pretty much just gonna be doing the managing portion of the team, not having to worry about making Roger Dorn Night and setting prices, etc?

Personally I'd like to just manage/trade, leave the GM stuff to them college folk.

[Gom]

Okay so from what I understand, we're pretty much just gonna be doing the managing portion of the team, not having to worry about making Roger Dorn Night and setting prices, etc?

Personally I'd like to just manage/trade, leave the GM stuff to them college folk.

Roger Dorn. LOL!

Yes. Trading/drafting/managing. Setting up your bullpen, etc. Knowing when to give your players a day off. Basically, you are the manager with trading priveledges. You don't have to worry about finances or the price of your team's hotdog or your revenue stream.

We may throw that in later, but not to start. Let's get up and running, get interest going, and then we can add what we like later.

So far, we have 15 teams. Once we get all the names of the teams in, I'll figure out the draft order. To be fair, we'll do it in snake format. So 1st pick 1st round is last pick 2nd round. We will also reverse the pick from the stadium picks. I'm hoping for one more team, so if anyone knows anyone who will play and not quit, that would be cool. I have a few in mind, but I already brought one in.

[Thumper]

Roger Dorn. LOL!

Yes. Trading/drafting/managing. Setting up your bullpen, etc. Knowing when to give your players a day off. Basically, you are the manager with trading priveledges. You don't have to worry about finances or the price of your team's hotdog or your revenue stream.

We may throw that in later, but not to start. Let's get up and running, get interest going, and then we can add what we like later.

So far, we have 15 teams. Once we get all the names of the teams in, I'll figure out the draft order. To be fair, we'll do it in snake format. So 1st pick 1st round is last pick 2nd round. We will also reverse the pick from the stadium picks. I'm hoping for one more team, so if anyone knows anyone who will play and not quit, that would be cool. I have a few in mind, but I already brought one in.

Okay sounds awesome Gom, thanks for doing this, I really appreciate it.

Also, I'm about to install that .exe file you have linked, and I noticed an attatched file that said Parks, will I need that also?

[Gom]

The ballpark.zip is what the stadium factors are. You'll need to know that if you are to pick a good stadium for your team.

[Coco's Disciples]

I saw myself in the team name chart and just wanted to confirm officially that I will do this.

[He Hate Me]

The Brooklyn Haters

[ORS]

I can't get wrapped up into doing all this at work, and I'm a little busy the rest of the week after work. But, I will have time this weekend. Just letting you know I'm not sleeping on this.

[schillingouttheks]

I will get around to this later today. I apologize for the delay on my part.

[Soxfan#1]

Do I really need to study the stadiums or can I just pick any one?

[Rdsxmbnt]

Do I really need to study the stadiums or can I just pick any one?

Pick one and just be aware what kind of players will benefit/not benefit from it when selecting players. I wouldn't worry too much about park factors, they don't matter for that much (plus you play half your games on the road).

[Gom]

Do I really need to study the stadiums or can I just pick any one?
Up to you. Best to pick the stadium that defines your drafting philosophy.

[yankee20715]

As long as he's not some rando, I guess its fine. My bad.

You scared me for a second there. I was all excited about the league and being able to do something after getting home from work, and just like that my dreams were crushed and taken away from me.

And now they are back. Yes I know I'm sad, but.....well I got nothing to follow up with

[yankee20715]

Def think we have to have a draft especially since we arent going to use the full 30 teams right? At least we shouldnt use the full 30 teams.

Def disable minors, financials and all that bullshit.

I dont really care if its replay OR sim. Both have advantages and disadvantages.

in Replay you have day to day control over your team so you can correct a problem with your team instantly. But its slow moving.

Sim Faster paced only need to check your team once or twice a week. Eventually though we will be using completely fictional characters.

And GOM I'll think of my team name and let you know before draft.

[Gom]

Def think we have to have a draft especially since we arent going to use the full 30 teams right? At least we shouldnt use the full 30 teams.

Def disable minors, financials and all that bullshit.

I dont really care if its replay OR sim. Both have advantages and disadvantages.

in Replay you have day to day control over your team so you can correct a problem with your team instantly. But its slow moving.

Sim Faster paced only need to check your team once or twice a week. Eventually though we will be using completely fictional characters.

And GOM I'll think of my team name and let you know before draft.
We'll draft from the full 30 teams...but we only have 15 teams. We can replay it fast or slow, 02715. We will figure it out.

I agree with disabling all the financials, etc.

[schillingouttheks]

Disable all that extra shit that you said. I'm an OOTP virgin, and I don't wanna be too distressed.

From the sounds of what both are, I think I would prefer replay over sim.

[Gom]

Ok...when would be a good day to draft? Next weekend?

[Soxfan#1]

Damn doing this and FB might be tough.

[schillingouttheks]

Next weekend would be a very bad time to draft, unless it was Friday night.

[Thumper]

Next Friday night would be good for me too. Give me time to get a pre-draft list in order.

[Gom]

I'm good for next Friday night...but not everyone is responding all that quickly.

[Rdsxmbnt]

I think Friday will work for me

[Jayhawk Bill]

I am tentatively available next Friday night.

[Gom]

It looks like Friday it will be...so far. LOL.

[YanksHater213]

...I go out on Friday nights...?

[Gom]

Majority rules bro...plus, I could use a night off.

[Coco's Disciples]

Yeah Friday is a no go for me. Although I understand majority rules.

[Gom]

I personally don't care. You guys pick the day, I'll make myself available.

[YanksHater213]

Majority rules bro...plus, I could use a night off.

eh, can't win them all

if thats whats best for everyone else, that's what will happen i guess, i'm not too worried about it either way

[Soxfan#1]

I has a life!

actually i'll come.

[yankee20715]

I have to work. Actually no matter what day you pick most likely I'll have to work. Yeah its awesome working fridays and weekends

[Gom]

I have to work. Actually no matter what day you pick most likely I'll have to work. Yeah its awesome working fridays and weekends
You're a dick. I hate cops. Give me your team name, you bastard.

[Gom]

Ok, some problems in the number of teams. The game will only work with an even number of teams, and we have 13 teams. So what I will do is this. I will add an "expansion" team that will be computer controlled and run. This team can be picked up by anyone who wished to join our league. The league is most fun with 16 teams, because then we can run a wild card, and have half the teams in the playoffs. So go out and recruit people to play, but only get people who will stick with it.

[Soxfan#1]

I can get friend who is obsessed with baseball. He has over 2 grand in posts at the baseball forum i post at and he's a yanks fan. He is amazingly active as well. Can I recruit him?

[Gom]

I have no problem with that if the rest of you don't. After all, I brought in one of my best friends as well.

[CrespoBlows]

I can do it any time.

[Ray10]

Friday is good for me.

[schillingouttheks]

I have no problem with that if the rest of you don't. After all, I brought in one of my best friends as well.

If it fills up a spot to get closer to 16, I'm all for it.

Soxfan just has to promise that his friend won't become inactive.

Oh, and question ... how long are these drafts normally? About the same length as a fantasy draft for Yahoo?

[Soxfan#1]

Yeah I think you remember him. He came here and got banned. JimmyFox I think?



























































































hehe. Not really

[Gom]

If it fills up a spot to get closer to 16, I'm all for it.

Soxfan just has to promise that his friend won't become inactive.

Oh, and question ... how long are these drafts normally? About the same length as a fantasy draft for Yahoo?
It depends. It all comes down to how quick everyone is. At any time, you can let the computer finish up drafting for you, but I will tell you that the computer is not a good drafter. Figure a couple of hours.

[ORS]

Friday is good for me. Time?

[yankee20715]

Is Friday going to be the Stadium draft, the player draft or both?

[Gom]

We still haven't decided Friday or Thursday. I'll create a poll.

[Gom]

I asked my brother if he wanted to play, and if it's ok with you guys, I'd like to get him in one of the open teams. He won't be all that active on the boards until summer, he's in his last year of medical school, but he's a great guy, and he'll be active in the league. That much I can promise.

Is it ok with you guys?

[schillingouttheks]

As long as he's active, sure. No reservations here.

I'm thinking about getting one of my friends into one of the open slots too, but we'll have to wait and see.

[Gom]

I'm game. Look, in any league that starts out, we will have people who drop out. It's just the nature of the beast. We can't be overstocked with people. If you vouch for him, then he's good enough for me.

Guys, what do you think? I don't want to seem like I'm making blanket decisions here, but to get the league going, I have to take a very active part. Once it starts going, the league will take care of itself. I think we have a very strong core here, and I am positive this will work out. If I only could have found BOSI v1.0, this would have been the most amazing league you all were ever a part of. Still, we will have a lot of fun, that I'm sure of.

Grab him SOTK, and get him to join both the board and the league. That goes for all of you guys.

[schillingouttheks]

He's a member of the board, he just hasn't been here in forever.

[Soxfan#1]

Who is it?

Is it a she? ;)

[Thumper]

Who is it?

Is it a she? ;)

Oh gee... Gom will probably just give her all the good players if that's the case.

[Gom]

Oh gee... Gom will probably just give her all the good players if that's the case.
Will it then be a wonder why I traded away Johan for Andy Phillips? Giggity!

[Gom]

Ok....I have a question for you guys. Jayhawk Bill dropped out, and I don't think Sabermatters is playing, which leaves us with three open teams. Should we delete two of them, and go with a 14 team league and no wild card, or keep it at 16 teams with the wild card?

We need to recruit more people if we are going to keep it at 16. What are your thoughts here? Once we decide, we can't really change our minds until after the season.

[ORS]

I can make it easy on you. I'll drop if it's easier to go to 12 teams. I'd like to try it, but the more I learn about it, the more time consuming it appears to be and less interesting. I can go either way.

[ORS]

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I want out.

[Gom]

I can make it easy on you. I'll drop if it's easier to go to 12 teams. I'd like to try it, but the more I learn about it, the more time consuming it appears to be and less interesting. I can go either way.
Up to you. Like anything else, it is really what you put into it. I can say that in my opinion, and in the opinion of those that I know, it is much more interesting than fantasy baseball.

As for time, it will take you about 10 minutes twice a week to run your team.

[ORS]

Be that as it may, it will take much more time to learn the game play, follow the league, etc. I don't like to do things half assed. Count me out.

[Gom]

Be that as it may, it will take much more time to learn the game play, follow the league, etc. I don't like to do things half assed. Count me out.
Sorry to see ya go. I was looking forward to beating your team senseless. LOL!