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roary
05-11-2004, 01:36 PM
Pedro vs. C.C. in a tale of two aces
Cleveland (13-18) at Boston (19-13), 7:05 p.m. ET
By Alan Ginsberg / MLB.com

For the second time in two weeks, the Red Sox play the second game of a set against Cleveland looking to even the series.

Monday night, Boston twice recovered from two-run deficits to tie the score before the Indians pulled away for a 10-6 victory, snapping a five-game losing streak that began when the Red Sox took the final two games of the teams' four-game series in Cleveland last week.

Pedro Martinez and C.C. Sabathia are slated to square off in a rematch of the final game of that series, which Boston won 5-2 behind a strong seven innings from its ace.

That win continued a career of dominance for Martinez over the Indians. Martinez is 11-1 with a 1.72 lifetime ERA against Cleveland.

Pitching matchup
BOS: RHP Pedro Martinez
4-2, 3.92 ERA in 2004
1-0, 2.57 vs. CLE in 2004
11-1, 1.72 lifetime vs. CLE

CLE: LHP C.C. Sabathia
1-1, 2.34 ERA in 2004
0-1, 5.40 vs. BOS in 2004
1-2, 3.43 lifetime vs. BOS

Players to watch
With three hits Monday night, Johnny Damon extended his streak of consecutive multi-hit games to four ... Jason Varitek is hitting .395 (17-for-43) with three doubles, four home runs and 12 RBI over his last 13 games after enduring an 0-for-17 stretch ... With a ninth-inning double Monday night, Jody Gerut extended his hitting streak to 13 games, tying a career high.

Quotable
"Most of the games where we score six or seven runs we're going to win. Tonight we didn't. But we'll be back tomorrow and we'll try to get the series." -- Kevin Millar

Tek04
05-11-2004, 04:26 PM
Hopefully we can get back to our winning ways.

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 04:39 PM
hopefully we wont allow 2 runs in the 1st again...

yeszir
05-11-2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by YanksHater213@May 11 2004, 05:39 PM
hopefully we wont allow 2 runs in the 1st again...
Yea, thats 5 games in a row right, against Cleveland? Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

yawkeyway
05-11-2004, 05:46 PM
Petey typically pitches well early on in games, at least this season. I remember, was it last year or two years ago, when he had an 8.something ERA in the first two innings and then a 1.something for innings after that.

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 06:13 PM
so much for petey pitching well in the beginning of games...

the streak goes on, 6 games in a row vs the tribe allowing 2 in the 1st

yagmaster
05-11-2004, 06:15 PM
Wow, is this a frickin joke. I don't understand why we can't pitch well in the first. Maybe have our pitchers throw 100 pitches in warmups.

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 06:20 PM
RSN is stuck on pesimism, so im gonna be optimistic, at least he struckout the side...

yeszir
05-11-2004, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by YanksHater213@May 11 2004, 07:20 PM
RSN is stuck on pesimism, so im gonna be optimistic, at least he struckout the side...
And I'll counter with some more pessimism: He allowed two runs in doing it. :(

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 06:29 PM
true

TheFens
05-11-2004, 06:34 PM
I dont understand it though. He can strike out the side and be utterly dominant, and then give up 2 runs. It's annoyingly inconsistent!

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 06:35 PM
on a better note, the angels are winning 3-0 over the evil empire (i will post score updates as their game progresses)

as pedro Ks number 5, this is becoming a toss up, hit or strikeout

yeszir
05-11-2004, 06:43 PM
Damn, I just noticed, if we lose and the yankees win, they have sole position of first place. :(

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 06:43 PM
6 Ks for petey, he is too inconsistent, hit, walk, K, hit, K, hit, K

yeszir
05-11-2004, 06:55 PM
Ugh. Our offense is getting shut down, and Pedro, although getting the K's, isn't getting it done! He's up to 60 pitches already.

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 07:05 PM
how ironic, you say they cant produce, and gabe homers... hahaha

2-1 tribe

yagmaster
05-11-2004, 07:12 PM
I'm loving what I'm seeing from Pedro tonight. I have no idea why we are struggling so much in the first inning. This makes no sense, I guess we just need to concentrate more at the beginning.

yagmaster
05-11-2004, 07:16 PM
Manny, Manny, Manny. We're not paying you $160 million to steal.

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 07:18 PM
ORTIZZLE FOSHIZZLE, FIRST HIT EVER VS A LEFTY!!!

2-2

yagmaster
05-11-2004, 07:18 PM
I don't like posting three times in a row, but a SHOT by Ortiz makes it ok.

Tied 2-2

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by yagmaster@May 11 2004, 07:18 PM
I don't like posting three times in a row, but a SHOT by Ortiz makes it ok.

Tied 2-2
i cut in, too bad, i also hate posting multiple times in a row

RedSoxRooter
05-11-2004, 07:29 PM
The New Pedro.

1st inning - Sucks
2nd inning - Shaky
3rd - 6th - Good (or gets bombed in the 4th, but mostly good)
7th - outa gas. Hopefully makes it through.

That's what Pedro's been doing all year and into last. Hopefully he can go a full 6 tonight and leave with a lead.

yeszir
05-11-2004, 07:30 PM
Don't worry. You don't look half as stupid as you think you do when you post 3 times in a row. Especially since its a game thread, post a million times in a row, its ok!

Nice to see that its finally tied, but we could be WINNING if we didnt have first inning woes.

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 07:33 PM
Bad baserunning = hard times for the sox. If manny hadn't tried to steal, Ortiz's homerun would've put the sox ahead.

yagmaster
05-11-2004, 07:35 PM
Wow, I really thought Millar's ball was gone. He's really been mashing it, and the camera man was fooled.

RedSoxRooter
05-11-2004, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by CalvnHobs6@May 11 2004, 07:33 PM
Bad baserunning = hard times for the sox. If manny hadn't tried to steal, Ortiz's homerun would've put the sox ahead.
and that inning would have kept going with runners at 1st and 2nd with 2 out. BUT, I do want them to run and keep pressure on the pitcher more...

yagmaster
05-11-2004, 07:42 PM
Ten Strikeouts for Pedro, I have to say, I still love watching him pitch and really hope he pitches for us next year.

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by yagmaster@May 11 2004, 08:42 PM
Ten Strikeouts for Pedro, I have to say, I still love watching him pitch and really hope he pitches for us next year.
Yeah, okay, 10 K's. But he still gave up two runs in the first, and at a time where the sox offense hasn't had its usual production, he needs to be dominant early in the game. Will he go out another inning? Should he?

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 08:00 PM
11 Ks. Sonofabitch.

Lack of clutch hitting last inning, oh well. Nice to see ortiz producing again, he's 2-3 tonite.

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by CalvnHobs6@May 11 2004, 08:00 PM
11 Ks. Sonofabitch.

Lack of clutch hitting last inning, oh well. Nice to see ortiz producing again, he's 2-3 tonite.
2-3 vs a lefty too, thats stepping it up

Tek04
05-11-2004, 08:03 PM
ortiz reminds me so much of mo vaughn...just bigger...that last homerun he hit was pure mo style!

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Tek04@May 11 2004, 08:03 PM
ortiz reminds me so much of mo vaughn...just bigger...that last homerun he hit was pure mo style!
ortizzle also isnt as fat, and doesnt crouch like a fag

yeszir
05-11-2004, 08:05 PM
He's also cooler :D. No! What am I saying? Mo was the man! Anyway, the sox need to put some runs up and win this damn thing. Pedro pitched too well for the team to lose!

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 08:07 PM
Amen brotha. Let's see Manny rape one over the wall.

Tek04
05-11-2004, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by YanksHater213+May 11 2004, 09:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (YanksHater213 @ May 11 2004, 09:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tek04@May 11 2004, 08:03 PM
ortiz reminds me so much of mo vaughn...just bigger...that last homerun he hit was pure mo style&#33;
ortizzle also isnt as fat, and doesnt crouch like a fag [/b][/quote]
eek&#33; such a mo hater

yeszir
05-11-2004, 08:12 PM
Damn Embree. <_< Now we have to fight back AGAIN&#33;

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 08:15 PM
embree, embree, embree

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 08:16 PM
How? Why? Dammit.

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 08:17 PM
Manny, varitek, and ortiz are up. The dynamic trio. Or whatever. The best friggin hitterson the planet.

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 08:21 PM
oh no, crespos in, if he doesnt score, i am gonna kill cesar and tito

TheFens
05-11-2004, 08:23 PM
Does anyone else find it strange how Millar&#39;s been on an absolute tear recently, raising his average up near 300, and he goes 0-4. This is the inconsistency that I keep worrying about. Our hottest hitters go hitless, and our best pitchers struggle through early innings and then dominate. Whats going on&#33;?

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 08:23 PM
Welcome back Ortiz, we&#39;ve missed you.
Great night, 3-4.

HOWEVER
This game is very close. There is a good chance Ortiz, or should I say Ortiz&#39;s spot, will be batting again. Now there is no ortiz. Bah.

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 08:24 PM
billy mueller baby, way to go,

3-3

COME ON GABE, GIVE US THE LEAD&#33;&#33;&#33;

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 08:24 PM
Thanks you Mueller.

dirtdogman5
05-11-2004, 08:24 PM
Billy Mueller I love you&#33; (in a heterosexual way)

yeszir
05-11-2004, 08:25 PM
Phew. Tie games are much easier to deal with than losing games. Mueller coming up big, and it turns out the Crespo substitution was pointless. Damn, we really could benefit from Ortiz&#39;s presence later on, especially if this goes into extra innings.

Ortiz>Crespo

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by yeszir@May 11 2004, 08:25 PM
Phew. Tie games are much easier to deal with than losing games. Mueller coming up big, and it turns out the Crespo substitution was pointless. Damn, we really could benefit from Ortiz&#39;s presence later on, especially if this goes into extra innings.

Ortiz>Crespo
anyone in the entire mlb>Crespo

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 08:26 PM
KAPLER&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 08:27 PM
COME ON POKER, HIT ONE&#33;&#33;&#33;

err

wtf is wrong with tito putting mccarty in, i would much rather have pokey or dauber

yeszir
05-11-2004, 08:30 PM
Wow, talk about unlikely. McCARTY&#33; with the triple&#33; A TRIPLE&#33;
:D

Pinch hitting for Dauber was a good idea Tito&#33; :D

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 08:31 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


MCCARTYYYYYYYYYYY

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 08:31 PM
WOO HOO&#33;&#33;&#33;

5-3, foulke will come in and shut them down

clutch 2 out play right now

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 08:32 PM
Great inning. It&#39;s times like these where it feels real good to be a sox fan.

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by YanksHater213@May 11 2004, 08:27 PM
wtf is wrong with tito putting mccarty in, i would much rather have pokey or dauber
i will never doubt you again tito, you are a good man

yagmaster
05-11-2004, 08:33 PM
It&#39;s great that someone else can come up with the big hits. MCCARTY&#33;

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 08:34 PM
Bring in the Foulker.

And I&#39;m sorry for posting so much, but tonite was a light hw night for me.

yeszir
05-11-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by YanksHater213+May 11 2004, 09:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (YanksHater213 @ May 11 2004, 09:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-YanksHater213@May 11 2004, 08:27 PM
wtf is wrong with tito putting mccarty in, i would much rather have pokey or dauber
i will never doubt you again tito, you are a good man [/b][/quote]
Haha. Eating our words are we....... :P

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by CalvnHobs6@May 11 2004, 08:34 PM

And I&#39;m sorry for posting so much, but tonite was a light hw night for me.
dont be sorry, the more posts the better, i usually post every night, my computer is right next to my tv, its rather convienient

yagmaster
05-11-2004, 08:36 PM
One more strike, Foulkie&#33;

yagmaster
05-11-2004, 08:37 PM
Excelent, what a win&#33;

YanksHater213
05-11-2004, 08:38 PM
BALLGAME&#33;

Yankees update- bottom 4th in a delay, angels up 4-2

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 08:39 PM
GREAT GAME.

Oh man, one of the best games I&#39;ve seen in a while. I love it.

yagmaster
05-11-2004, 08:39 PM
I wonder if some team can keep a lead against the MFY.

yeszir
05-11-2004, 08:39 PM
Phew. We needed that win. And posting = good, no apologies&#33; Its a good way to keep up to date on the game and have fun all the while&#33; If you can&#39;t watch the game with anyone else, you can at least watch it with all of us.

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 08:42 PM
True that.

I&#39;m a little upset about Embree getting the win. Can&#39;t they make an exception?? Like give it to Pedro? Cause he kicked some serious ass. Look at his numbers.
7 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, ELEVEN STRIKEOUTS, 2 BB.

I&#39;ll take it. I think it was his second best start of the year. Second best only to his first start against Halladay.

roary
05-11-2004, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by CalvnHobs6@May 11 2004, 09:42 PM
I&#39;ll take it. I think it was his second best start of the year. Second best only to his first start against Halladay.
Indeed. That first start agains the H-Dog was incredible. I find it funny that I did not post at all in a thread that I started. I was busy with work and watching the game though.

And I do agree, Pedro deserved that win like none other. He was downright superios, except for that first inning. Embree gave up a homerun and got the win. Go figure. Oh well, wins dont matter in the long run for a pitcher, quality of starts does, and without pedro we would not have won that.

Tek04
05-11-2004, 09:15 PM
good win for the sox, i was a little disappointed with him taking daubach out to hit for mccarty, but that paid off really well :)

ACL BoSox
05-11-2004, 09:35 PM
Nice win tonight, now tomorrow we need Wake to shut down the tribe (and not give up 2 in the first), and get us the season series.

CalvnHobs6
05-11-2004, 10:06 PM
Kim was optioned to AAA Pawtucket after the game.

YanksHater213
05-12-2004, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by CalvnHobs6@May 11 2004, 10:06 PM
Kim was optioned to AAA Pawtucket after the game.
BOO-YAH&#33;