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Soxfan#1
02-28-2005, 05:25 PM
For me it's wells. If his back holds out than he can be very dominating.

YanksHater213
02-28-2005, 05:32 PM
Wade Miller. If he stays healthy, low risk (small contract), high reward. Cant wait to see him pitch.

yeszir
02-28-2005, 05:36 PM
Definitely Miller. If he stays healthy (or gets healthy, if you prefer), his wins could easily number in the high teens.

Soxfan#1
02-28-2005, 05:38 PM
How many games did miller miss last year.

yankeessuck013
02-28-2005, 06:00 PM
I'd say renteria, but Miller if he can stay healthy for the most part.

CalvnHobs6
02-28-2005, 06:10 PM
I'm personally very excited about our new trio of starting pitchers. Wells-Clement-Miller. Miller has the biggest upside, and I expect him and Clement to win 15 games apiece.

yeszir
02-28-2005, 07:18 PM
How many games did miller miss last year.
That's relative, but he started 15 games last year.

CalvnHobs6
02-28-2005, 07:26 PM
And assuming a healthy SP starts 32, that'd be over half the season he missed.

yeszir
03-01-2005, 10:19 AM
And assuming a healthy SP starts 32, that'd be over half the season he missed.
Which is why I said it was relative. It's impossible to say how many games he would have started.


Year Ag Tm Lg W L G GS CG SHO GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO HBP WP BFP ERA *lgERA *ERA+
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+
1999 22 HOU NL 0 1 5 1 0 0 2 0 10.3 17 11 11 4 5 8 0 0 52 9.58 4.34 45
2000 23 HOU NL 6 6 16 16 2 0 0 0 105.0 104 66 60 14 42 89 3 1 453 5.14 4.92 96
2001 24 HOU NL 16 8 32 32 1 0 0 0 212.0 183 91 80 31 76 183 4 8 873 3.40 4.54 134
2002 25 HOU NL 15 4 26 26 1 1 0 0 164.7 151 63 60 14 62 144 6 4 688 3.28 4.28 130
2003 26 HOU NL 14 13 33 33 1 0 0 0 187.3 168 96 86 17 77 161 10 4 797 4.13 4.41 107
2004 27 HOU NL 7 7 15 15 0 0 0 0 88.7 76 35 33 11 44 74 0 1 383 3.35 4.31 129
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+
6 Yr WL% .598 58 39 127 123 5 1 2 0 768.0 699 362 330 91 306 659 23 18 3246 3.87 4.48 116
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+
162 Game Avg 15 10 34 33 1 0 0 0 208.7 190 98 89 24 83 179 6 4 882 3.87 4.48 116
Career High 16 13 33 33 2 1 2 0 212.0 183 96 86 31 77 183 10 8 873 3.28 4.91 134

He could easily reproduce his '01-'02 stats if healthy.

Soxfan#1
03-01-2005, 11:46 AM
That's relative, but he started 15 games last year.
No i really don't know how many did he miss?

yeszir
03-01-2005, 11:58 AM
No i really don't know how many did he miss?
Are you joking? He missed 8. :blink:

stocker323
03-01-2005, 12:06 PM
I think a guy who may play a key role this season, is a guy that nobody has really talked about and that's Ramon Vazquez. I know Theo and co. are are really high on this guy, and he can occasionally start, but more importantantly be a bat and speed off the bench.

ahhchon
03-01-2005, 12:16 PM
matt mantei hands down. if this guy stays healthy and plays to potential we have the best setupman to closer combo in the league.

renteria is most definately not the best aquisition. look at who we had before him, nomar and cabrera. both who are at par or better than renteria. nomar is a lost cause for us, but for 8 mill (this season contract) he'll put up better numbers at a better price than renteria. cabrera who will be making 2 mill less per year than renteria will also be putting up numbers close to him (watch the ballpark factor).

as of now our best pickup is probably a pitcher, which one it is i'm not so sure just yet. but i think that if they are all healthy and play to potential i'de pick mantei just for the awsome 1-2 late inning punch with foulke.

john

RedSoxRooter
03-01-2005, 03:25 PM
The one thing with Mantei that bothers me more than all the others is his history of injury. Sure Clement, Miller and Wells all got injured last year, but Mantei gets injured EVERY year. I think 10 seasons in a row. :o

I don't see how this year will be any different unless they decide to pich him less. I guess in his new roll, he'll be pitching less anyway. But still, I think I read somewhere that he doesn't expect to pitch more than 50 innings this season. In that regard, he may not be as big an impact as Clement or even Wells.

But if he does stay healthy............

Soxfan#1
03-01-2005, 05:00 PM
When you say that I think of Ken griffey Jr....

BigPapiEnFuego
03-01-2005, 05:46 PM
best aquisition to me is Wells. he is a big game pitcher and a lefty starter, something we haven't had.

techsoldaten
03-02-2005, 11:32 AM
Hmm...

I think it's John Halama. Represents management's thinking about depth and potential.

Let's say everything goes wrong with Kim, Wells, Miller, and Shilling. There are so many possible starters you could still have a complete front 5. And I think Halama's ERA will go down in Fenway, Tropicana Field was made for stupid home runs.

M

SoCalSox
03-03-2005, 01:17 PM
I'd say Renteria. This guy is awesome, and will probably get better. I'd take him over Garciaparra (even though I love him) and Cabrera.

Wells & Miller are GREAT pickups. Wells for being a big game pitcher with an attitude and a lefty--and Miller's upside is huge. If he doesn't work out--what did we lose? I'm hoping Wells can pitch in Fenway though.

Sizzlin22
03-04-2005, 03:03 PM
In all the MLB I hate to say it but its RJ on the Red Sox I gotta go with Miller on the Red Sox if he gets healthy.

PinstripesForLife
03-07-2005, 12:57 PM
As a Yankees fan,i can't wait to see David Wells serve a hanger to Sheffield when it counts, and then when the ball lands in new hampshire he'll flip off the fans, curse at reporters, throw second base, punch an old person and swell Bourbon. What a guy!

BoSox Rule
03-07-2005, 03:07 PM
I'd say Renteria. This guy is awesome, and will probably get better. I'd take him over Garciaparra (even though I love him) Please. I am not a fan of the Renteria signing at all. Him and his .728 OPS :thumbdown