9/14 vs Yanks Game 2

[mvp 78]

TBD vs Schmidt

1-0 since firing Bloom.

[Bellhorn04]

Another 2 game swing game, mvp! :D

[Bellhorn04]

A pitcher named Tommy Belladonna might have the nickname "TBD". :cool:

[notin]

A pitcher named Tommy Belladonna might have the nickname "TBD". :cool:

No. We’d call him Scraps…

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Stanton may be the highest paid one tool player in the history of baseball.

[jad]

Wow. I guess the old adage about 'the ball will find you' is true.

[FredLynn]

Game over
This team absolutely sucks

[FredLynn]

Can we get rid of Bernie right now?

[jad]

Can we get rid of Bernie right now?

Trade him for Stanton?

[FredLynn]

Trade him for Stanton?

Just show him the same door Bloom went out by.

[moonslav59]

Can we get rid of Bernie right now?

Shoulda done i when his stock was higher.

[FredLynn]

It’s fine to lose the rest of the games-except when we’re playing the Yankees.

[FredLynn]

Shoulda done i when his stock was higher.

Agreed
The management never decided which way to go at the deadline. They became catatonic, neither buyers nor sellers. And it cost them.

[mvp 78]

Bernardino realized his career was over after Bloom was fired.

[FredLynn]

Bernardino realized his career was over after Bloom was fired.

He’ll probably be picked up by the A’s or Rays and have a sub 3 ERA next year.

[FredLynn]

So who plays CF next year? Duran or Rafaela? And what becomes of the other guy?

[Randy Red Sox]

Who are these scrub pitchers we are using tonite.. who is Robertson and who is Weiss. Great pitching finds by the late Chaim Bloom

[mvp 78]

So who plays CF next year? Duran or Rafaela? And what becomes of the other guy?

Rafaela is a CFer. Duran is not.

[FredLynn]

Rafaela is a CFer. Duran is not.

Duran had a pretty good year. If he’s not in CF he has to be traded if Rafaela is our CF.

[moonslav59]

Duran had a pretty good year. If he’s not in CF he has to be traded if Rafaela is our CF.

With Yoshi moving to DH, Duran and his defense might be best served in LF.

[moonslav59]

Who are these scrub pitchers we are using tonite.. who is Robertson and who is Weiss. Great pitching finds by the late Chaim Bloom

Robertson was obtained by trading Kike to LAD. He could amount to something useful, someday.

Weiss is a waiver wire dumpster dive.

[moonslav59]

He’ll probably be picked up by the A’s or Rays and have a sub 3 ERA next year.

He was at 2.60 for us before today.

[FredLynn]

With Yoshi moving to DH, Duran and his defense might be best served in LF.

You’re assuming Turner won’t be back. If he leaves they will need to replace him with a RHH power bat. Too many LHH.

[jung]

Rafaela is a CFer. Duran is not.

My choice would be Rafaela. No question in my mind anyway. Play Duran in Left or trade him.

[moonslav59]

You’re assuming Turner won’t be back. If he leaves they will need to replace him with a RHH power bat. Too many LHH.

Turner will not take the option, so he will be a FA. We rarely bring back our guys who reach free agency, and with Yoshi so well suited for DH, I think JT is as good as gone.

I would like to see us bring back Duvall, as long as the cost and years are not too much. I don't really want Duvall in CF, and since Duran and Ref are best suited for LF, I could see an OF like this:

LF: Duran, Refsnyder (Yoshi/Abreu/Reyes)
CF: Rafaela, Abreu (Duran/Reyes)
RF: Duvall (Abreu/Refsnyder/Reyes)

If we can't get something useful for Dugo, I'd keep him and maybe trade Duran while his stock appears high.

LF: Abreu, Refsnyder (Yoshi)
CF: Rafaela (Abreu)
RF: Dugo (Abreu)

[moonslav59]

Yoshida is such a ground out machine.

[mvp 78]

Duran had a pretty good year. If he’s not in CF he has to be traded if Rafaela is our CF.

Duran in LF.

[FredLynn]

Turner will not take the option, so he will be a FA. We rarely bring back our guys who reach free agency, and with Yoshi so well suited for DH, I think JT is as good as gone.

I would like to see us bring back Duvall, as long as the cost and years are not too much. I don't really want Duvall in CF, and since Duran and Ref are best suited for LF, I could see an OF like this:

LF: Duran, Refsnyder (Yoshi/Abreu/Reyes)
CF: Rafaela, Abreu (Duran/Reyes)
RF: Duvall (Abreu/Refsnyder/Reyes)

If we can't get something useful for Dugo, I'd keep him and maybe trade Duran while his stock appears high.

LF: Abreu, Refsnyder (Yoshi)
CF: Rafaela (Abreu)
RF: Dugo (Abreu)



Pretty heavy LHH tilt. I don’t see Ref as anything but a bench player and Reyes isn’t exactly a power hitter so Duvall is our only real RH power hitter if Turner leaves as expected. Duvall is too streaky to be dependable. So we’ll still need to replace Turner with one or two RHHers with power.
Just one of our many needs.

[iortiz]

LL in the 8th, that’s awesome!

[****THEYANKEES]

With Yoshi moving to DH, Duran and his defense might be best served in LF.

yes.

[notin]

It does seem as though a lot of people are committed to the notion that Yoshida’s True Destiny is to be a MLB DH.


Do the Sox think that’s the plan?

[moonslav59]

Pretty heavy LHH tilt. I don’t see Ref as anything but a bench player and Reyes isn’t exactly a power hitter so Duvall is our only real RH power hitter if Turner leaves as expected. Duvall is too streaky to be dependable. So we’ll still need to replace Turner with one or two RHHers with power.
Just one of our many needs.

Refsnyder has our best OPS vs LHPs since 2021.

Story is going to have to pick up some RH'd bat slack, but yes, Duvall and Rafaela have a lot to do to help make up for the loss of JT.

[moonslav59]

It does seem as though a lot of people are committed to the notion that Yoshida’s True Destiny is to be a MLB DH.


Do the Sox think that’s the plan?

Probably never crossed their minds, although some new minds are coming in.

[moonslav59]

That kinda knocks the wind out of the sails.

[redsoxrules]

It does seem as though a lot of people are committed to the notion that Yoshida’s True Destiny is to be a MLB DH.


Do the Sox think that’s the plan?

I'd trade him

[****THEYANKEES]

I'd trade him

that wouldn't hurt my feelings. a lot of money for a singles-hitting DH.

[notin]

that wouldn't hurt my feelings. a lot of money for a singles-hitting DH.

Does everyone think trades are solely for getting rid players?

[Oscars]

I’m certainly over Yoshida’s weak ground outs to 2nd base.

[Maxbialystock]

Probably never crossed their minds, although some new minds are coming in.

I think you have to be a really good hitter to justify being the "regular" DH. Why? Because the DH slot gives the manager opportunities to rest other players, to get the right bats into a lineup against a given pitcher, etc. In Yoshida's case, left field at Fenway is almost perfect for him defensively because it does not put a premium on having a great arm or on having great range. Thus do Manny Ramirez and Ted Williams come to mind.

To me the real issue with Yoshida is his hitting vs. his salary, and that's exactly the issue with Story even though Story is a pretty good defensive SS.

Story's salary, just like Yoshida's, demands an .800 OPS as an absolute minimum.

[jad]

Yoshida is leading the team in BA; Story is hitting around .180. Yoshida has an OPS of .793. Story is in the 500s. There is really no comparison between these two players. It reminds me of the antipathy of RS fans for A. Gonzales, also a .290s hitter who did exactly for the RS what he did everywhere he played.

[moonslav59]

I think you have to be a really good hitter to justify being the "regular" DH. Why? Because the DH slot gives the manager opportunities to rest other players, to get the right bats into a lineup against a given pitcher, etc. In Yoshida's case, left field at Fenway is almost perfect for him defensively because it does not put a premium on having a great arm or on having great range. Thus do Manny Ramirez and Ted Williams come to mind.

To me the real issue with Yoshida is his hitting vs. his salary, and that's exactly the issue with Story even though Story is a pretty good defensive SS.

Story's salary, just like Yoshida's, demands an .800 OPS as an absolute minimum.

While true, I don't think anyone would be happy with a Duran-Refsnyder platoon at DH for a fraction of Yoshi's cost (and maybe the same cumulative OPS,)

[A Red Sox fan named Hugh]

I'm the type of guy who usually does not drink at baseball games, I like to enjoy such things with a clear state of mind. But when I'm at the Tampa game on the 26th you might just find me 6-7 deep wondering around Fenway.

This is what this season has done to me.