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vegasbob
06-30-2023, 05:13 PM
Paxton kneeds this to be a great effort vs another tough Rh'er Jose Berrios (8-5; 3.60; 1.22 Whip)

The Sox could sweep in Toronto and only be 5th by 2 games. There's that . The odds are not good for a sweep or even a win, but that's why they play the games , not just debate them on line.

SPLENDIDSPLINTER
06-30-2023, 05:59 PM
Berrios has improved since he faced the SOX in May and the SOX offense has deteriorated since then.
Final score SOX-9, Jays-5.

d-money
06-30-2023, 06:17 PM
Another scoreless inning.

SPLENDIDSPLINTER
06-30-2023, 06:39 PM
If the SOX can't win when Bello and Paxton start, then they will be in line for a high draft pick next year.

d-money
06-30-2023, 06:42 PM
This offense blows chunks right now! My goodness!

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 06:43 PM
Given Berrios's 43 pitches through 3, I think we can have him knocked out by end of 7

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 06:50 PM
Of course, Paxton is pitching a gem himself with 44 pitch count through 3 . Of course, the Sox cannot score to help the pitching

5GoldGloves:OF,75
06-30-2023, 07:03 PM
Of course, Paxton is pitching a gem himself with 44 pitch count through 3 . Of course, the Sox cannot score to help the pitching

Too bad the Sox' fast guys like Duran and Hamilton couldn't just bunt their way on base and steal around the horn to score a few runs.

I know: how ignorant of me, a lowly fan, to expect professional ballplayers to be proficient in a basic hardball skill...

5GoldGloves:OF,75
06-30-2023, 07:05 PM
Justin Turns on one!

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 07:05 PM
Turner, the Not JDM in '23, gets a run on the board . Now Paxton just needs to shut out the Jays for a win

SPLENDIDSPLINTER
06-30-2023, 07:06 PM
Turner turns it around! The only RH batter on the SOX who is a threat at this point.

SPLENDIDSPLINTER
06-30-2023, 07:12 PM
Employing ML standards Hamilton is a one tool player.

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 07:22 PM
Great bomb by Duran with Wong on. really helps. I can smell a win that will help.

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 07:25 PM
Followed by that other dud, Yoshida . If Yoshida had gone elsewhere, would we even know who he was ? But since he came here he has hit better than most all other Sox, no matter what was paid for him.

SPLENDIDSPLINTER
06-30-2023, 07:31 PM
Devers needs to swing harder. Btw, the SOX are 21-21 at home and 19-21 on the road. Now that's a consistent team.

wyo-sox
06-30-2023, 07:34 PM
Smooth defensive movements by Hamilton there.

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 07:34 PM
Hamilton learning OJT. Paxton says don't mess with me

wyo-sox
06-30-2023, 07:36 PM
Some nice defense... solid pitching... a couple home runs... I'm watching a good game... but I can't quite accept it- feels hard to believe at this point.

wyo-sox
06-30-2023, 07:42 PM
I've been the biggest anti- Casas guy as there has been... but boy when I remember he is just 23 years old... hard not to cheer for him and hope he makes it. Lots of pressure for a kid. Nice base hit.

Jasonbay44
06-30-2023, 07:54 PM
Paxton has been fantastic

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 07:58 PM
Dugo hustles hard to earn a hit after his triple K

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 08:00 PM
Stinking Yoshi ,making fools out of his naysayers

wyo-sox
06-30-2023, 08:00 PM
Devers really needs a rbi here

Jasonbay44
06-30-2023, 08:02 PM
Devers struggles continue

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 08:03 PM
Devers---2nd/3rd ,no outs, infield in and he bounces one direct to 2Bman, hold the runners. Like I said elsewhere he should be leading all MLB with 75-80 rbi's at this point.

iortiz
06-30-2023, 08:03 PM
At this point I’m not sure anymore whether Dever’s contract will pay off or not.

Jasonbay44
06-30-2023, 08:05 PM
Turner does what Devers cannot. Knocks in a runner from 3rd with less than 2 outs

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 08:07 PM
Turner does what Devers cannot. Knocks in a runner from 3rd with less than 2 outs

But Justin is no JDM . Why are we stuck with him ??

Tedballgame
06-30-2023, 08:16 PM
Great game from Paxton. He needs to be brought back next season and beyond.

d-money
06-30-2023, 08:17 PM
Paxton is a guy that should be back here. Wis we could get rid of sale. The guy can’t stay healthy.

SPLENDIDSPLINTER
06-30-2023, 08:19 PM
Another excellent performance by Paxton, who is as close to an ACE as the SOX have had since the healthy years of Sale.

redsoxrules
06-30-2023, 08:25 PM
Paxton is a guy that should be back here. Wis we could get rid of sale. The guy can’t stay healthy.

You do realize Paxton has missed ton of time due to injuries right?

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 08:26 PM
Another excellent performance by Paxton, who is as close to an ACE as the SOX have had since the healthy years of Sale.

Bello and Paxton should be 40% of next year's rotation. Sale will be back, lol. Houck may be finally feeling ok . Maybe we only need 1 more, plus the usual suspects in reserve in case something happens ( Whitlock, Pivetta, Crawford ,NOT Kluber)

d-money
06-30-2023, 08:26 PM
You do realize Paxton has missed ton of time due to injuries right?

Yes but how long has sale been here already? Again the guy can’t stay healthy.

d-money
06-30-2023, 08:27 PM
Bello and Paxton should be 40% of next year's rotation. Sale will be back, lol. Houck may be finally feeling ok . Maybe we only need 1 more, plus the usual suspects in reserve in case something happens ( Whitlock, Pivetta, Crawford ,NOT Kluber)

I mean dale can’t pass that money up.

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 08:27 PM
You do realize Paxton has missed ton of time due to injuries right?

And I am sure Paxton will miss games again, as will Sale, but you don't want to send Bloom shopping for 2 FA starters, do you ?

redsoxrules
06-30-2023, 08:33 PM
My fuck this defense

Tedballgame
06-30-2023, 08:33 PM
Great defense again by the Sox. GEEEEEEZ

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 08:33 PM
Duran has had some difficulties at times , like a lot of consecutive K's, but he is hitting .796 OPS, with 15 SBs . He has over 225 Pa's so it is not a real small sample. If he could maintain that pace through September, he becomes a keeper

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 08:34 PM
Let me just point out that not all Sox fans just love the little fat boy at 3rd. He is not bright.

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 08:37 PM
If Ort had a changeup or low away slider, he could be a devastating 1 inning reliever

vegasbob
06-30-2023, 08:40 PM
Great shutout by Paxton, Martin and Ort, a rare combo. But we outscored Toronto which is all it takes to win in MLB

SPLENDIDSPLINTER
06-30-2023, 08:41 PM
So against the Jays and the Yankems the SOX are 10-1. Berry Oh's has a career record against the SOX of 1-6.

SPLENDIDSPLINTER
06-30-2023, 08:51 PM
So against the Jays and the Yankems the SOX are 10-1. Berry Oh's has a career record against the SOX of 1-6.

Too bad they couldn't have just played .500 against the rest of the schedule.

SPLENDIDSPLINTER
06-30-2023, 08:53 PM
Vegas, you have the rare pleasure of late to initiate 2 game threads in a row. Cheers!

Maxbialystock
06-30-2023, 08:59 PM
Terrific win, especially Paxton's 7.2 innings and 0 runs. For a change, the Sox backed him up with with 3 dingers and 5 runs and some pretty good defense, the collision and dropped ball in the 9th notwithstanding.

moonslav59
06-30-2023, 09:57 PM
So against the Jays and the Yankems the SOX are 10-1. Berry Oh's has a career record against the SOX of 1-6.

And, there I was thinking us playing less ALE games would help us.

moonslav59
06-30-2023, 09:58 PM
Rumors of Paxton's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

moonslav59
06-30-2023, 09:58 PM
Rumors of Yoshida's lack of power has been greatly exaggerated.

moonslav59
06-30-2023, 10:00 PM
Rumors of Justin Turner growing a day older are true, but the kid keeps playing like a 25 year old.

moonslav59
06-30-2023, 10:00 PM
Rumors of Kaleb Ort sucking may be true- just don't tell him that!

moonslav59
06-30-2023, 10:06 PM
Rumors of the Orioles starting an epic collapse are just that- a rumor, but they are down 8-1, tonight and are on their way to their 3rd straight loss.

After finishing with MN on Sunday, this is their upcoming schedule:
4@ NYY
3@ MN
(Break)
3 v MIA
3 v LAD
4@ TBR
3@ PHI
3 v NYY
4@TOR
Home for 3 NYM/3HOU
Away for 3 SEA/SDP/OAK

They don't really get a break until AUG 18 @ OAK

moonslav59
06-30-2023, 10:08 PM
Big hit & catch by Duran.

He looks like a butterfly out there in CF.

5GoldGloves:OF,75
07-01-2023, 05:04 AM
DEFENSE! Duran robs Vlad, who tipped his helmet, and the infield actually looked good last night. Hamilton and Arroyo turned a sharp DP (not "nifty" OB, because that's just uncool), Casas made some professional stretches and scoops, and Devers showed quick reflexes.

Then Raffy plowed into Arroyo on the 9th inning pop-up, and Christian still looked pissed at the end of the game... doubt that happens with a veteran presence like Bogaerts directing traffic from short. Sure, it may take years for Mayer to take charge -- but Sox fans need only look to Baltimore and how quickly the O's turned respectable, once Rutschman became catcher.

Bellhorn04
07-01-2023, 07:44 AM
So against the Jays and the Yankems the SOX are 10-1.

Unfortunately counterbalanced by being 1-10 against the Florida Men, Tampa and Miami.

That's why we're the Even Stevens.

Maxbialystock
07-01-2023, 09:52 AM
DEFENSE! Duran robs Vlad, who tipped his helmet, and the infield actually looked good last night. Hamilton and Arroyo turned a sharp DP (not "nifty" OB, because that's just uncool), Casas made some professional stretches and scoops, and Devers showed quick reflexes.

Then Raffy plowed into Arroyo on the 9th inning pop-up, and Christian still looked pissed at the end of the game... doubt that happens with a veteran presence like Bogaerts directing traffic from short. Sure, it may take years for Mayer to take charge -- but Sox fans need only look to Baltimore and how quickly the O's turned respectable, once Rutschman became catcher.

It pissed me off too because Arroyo did call for it and the replay did not show Devers calling for it. That said, this was an error of commission vice omission. With two guys battling each other for that popup, there was still a good chance one would catch it. With both of them making way for the other to catch it, there's a 100% chance it will not be caught.

Maxbialystock
07-01-2023, 10:16 AM
DEFENSE! Duran robs Vlad, who tipped his helmet, and the infield actually looked good last night. Hamilton and Arroyo turned a sharp DP (not "nifty" OB, because that's just uncool), Casas made some professional stretches and scoops, and Devers showed quick reflexes.

Then Raffy plowed into Arroyo on the 9th inning pop-up, and Christian still looked pissed at the end of the game... doubt that happens with a veteran presence like Bogaerts directing traffic from short. Sure, it may take years for Mayer to take charge -- but Sox fans need only look to Baltimore and how quickly the O's turned respectable, once Rutschman became catcher.

About Bogey. I think we all liked him a lot--and no doubt still do. But I honestly don't think his salary--which will continue for a bunch more years--matches his overall performance, nor will it.

The Sox already signed Story for 6 years and $140. They also have the kid (Marcelo Mayer) at AA. However, Story is on the IL, and so are Chang and Reyes. That's four freaking SS's who are not available. Thus has Kike played SS a fair amount, and now Hamilton.