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  • Maxbialystock's Avatar
    Today, 02:38 PM
    All but Rafaela and Ref are lefty bats. Lugo isn't just the Royals ace, he leads MLB starters in ERA, 2.21, quality starts, 15, and IP, 122. He's...
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  • Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Today, 02:33 PM
    Bellhorn04 replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    The main point is that if the Red Sox want to make a playoff run, they need help in both the rotation and the bullpen. Trading Jansen for a...
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  • Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Today, 02:32 PM
    Bellhorn04 replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    The main point is that if the Red Sox want to make a playoff run, they need help in both the rotation and the bullpen. Trading Jansen for a...
    827 replies | 22685 view(s)
  • notin's Avatar
    Today, 01:54 PM
    notin replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    As long as we know you mean the boring bullpen WASPy name…
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  • notin's Avatar
    Today, 01:53 PM
    notin replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    Young gave up more for a starter. Two actually…
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  • Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Today, 01:50 PM
    Bellhorn04 replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    That's at least the second time I've effed up his name.
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  • Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Today, 01:50 PM
    Bellhorn04 replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    I think we may have been over this before LOL Ask Theo Epstein or Chris Young - they're the ones who gave up a lot for Chapman. I think they have...
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  • notin's Avatar
    Today, 01:29 PM
    notin replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    Who is Smith? Or did you mean Martin? Or were you possibly referring to character actor Charles Martin Smith?
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  • notin's Avatar
    Today, 01:22 PM
    notin replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    But how many are truly critical? I mean, is getting 3 outs without giving up 2 or more runs really a specialized skill possessed by only a limited...
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  • Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Today, 01:04 PM
    Bellhorn04 replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    Well yeah, but the IP tend to be critical ones, and that's exactly why closers have landed such big returns at the deadline.
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  • Randy Red Sox's Avatar
    Today, 12:53 PM
    Randy Red Sox replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    lol
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  • notin's Avatar
    Today, 12:52 PM
    notin replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    True, but they might be able to get 60 IP (or more) out of a starter. Jansen might only pitch 15-20 IP the rest of the way…
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  • SPLENDIDSPLINTER's Avatar
    Today, 12:52 PM
    Lugo vs Crawford Duran Hamilton Masa Devers Refsnyder Abreu Smith McGuire
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  • notin's Avatar
    Today, 12:48 PM
    notin replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    Don’t draw too close of a parallel here. Say the Dodgers offered an uninjured Michael Grove or Landon Knack for Jansen. Would it be worth moving...
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  • Old Red's Avatar
    Today, 12:47 PM
    Old Red replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    They need both, but the back end of the BP has thinned out the last few weeks too.
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  • Old Red's Avatar
    Today, 12:44 PM
    Old Red replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    You don’t know how much you’ll get, or can count on Martin.
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  • Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Today, 12:43 PM
    Bellhorn04 replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    They need help in both areas.
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  • Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Today, 12:42 PM
    Bellhorn04 replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    They might need another reliever now just as much, with Smith and Slaten on the IL.
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  • notin's Avatar
    Today, 12:41 PM
    notin replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    Do they need Jansen more than a SP? If they need the SP more, “might return” might be good enough. Especially considering how thin their starting...
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  • Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Today, 12:40 PM
    Bellhorn04 replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    Yes, but you would need some kind of crystal ball to project 2023 Ragans's numbers with the Rangers, where he'd been moved to the bullpen, to his...
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  • Old Red's Avatar
    Today, 12:30 PM
    Old Red replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    Might return isn’t good enough. The Red Sox need Jansen Now. Of course they need at least one more solid starter also.
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  • notin's Avatar
    Today, 12:27 PM
    notin replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    To paraphrase this multi-faceted question - what would be a bigger help in getting the 2024 Red Sox into the postseason? Jansen? Or a pitcher like...
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  • notin's Avatar
    Today, 12:21 PM
    notin replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    Just because they traded Ragans doesn’t mean they lost faith in him. Sometimes you have to pay the price and Ragans was clearly a guy KC targeted
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  • Old Red's Avatar
    Today, 12:06 PM
    Old Red replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    Pissing off Cora is nowhere near as important as pissing off Raffy, and the rest of the players in that clubhouse.
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  • Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Today, 12:00 PM
    Bellhorn04 replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    It's no simple question or answer. In hindsight the trade of Ragans for Chapman was sheer madness on the part of the Rangers. But Ragans's numbers...
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  • 5GoldGloves:OF,75's Avatar
    Today, 11:52 AM
    5GoldGloves:OF,75 replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    Something to mull: if paying Cora market value isn't in Red Sox longterm plans, then Breslow won't hesitate to trade Jansen, Pivetta and O'Neill by...
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  • Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Today, 11:52 AM
    I strongly dispute that Price and Sale were "stupid acquisitions". I think they were acquisitions that were absolutely necessary at the time -...
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  • Maxbialystock's Avatar
    Today, 11:25 AM
    This is pretty close to what I've been saying (too often). JH has reacted strongly to all the stupid acquisitions, including some (Price and...
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  • Bellhorn04's Avatar
    Today, 11:14 AM
    Bellhorn04 replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    MADSTORK is the board's resident troll. He's so much of a troll that he won't even disclose who his team is.
    827 replies | 22685 view(s)
  • Randy Red Sox's Avatar
    Today, 11:13 AM
    Randy Red Sox replied to a thread Trades? in Talk Sox Forum
    the facts undisputed are that Yorke and Jordan are NOT MLB players. The other fact is that Anthony is still too young and needs more time. Move him...
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